(VICT) Re: other dogs question
- From: "Ann Edie" <annedie@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <vi-clicker-trainers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 23:56:13 -0400
Hi, Shelley, Martha, and All,
I would not attach the leash to the dead ring of the chain collar, unless
you were working in an enclosed, safe area. If the chain collar went on
over the dog's head, then it could easily slip off if the dog backed away
from the person holding the leash.
I know this from personal experience. Back in the early 1980's, I left my
one year old Schipperke dog, which I had only had for a week, with my
brother for an afternoon. I left the dog in his crate. My brother offered
to take the dog out for a walk while I was away. I explained to my brother,
who was not a dog owner to that point, how to put on the chain collar and
how to attach the leash. My brother, thinking he would be a kind person,
attached the leash to the dead ring and proceeded to take the dog out for a
walk. No sooner did they get outside than the dog backed out of the collar
and scooted away. The dog didn't know my brother, and Schipperkes are
notorious wanderers, so the dog led my brother on a merry chase for the next
couple of hours. He did finally succeed in cornering and catching the dog,
and by the time we got back, the dog was back in his crate looking angelic.
But I wouldn't take that kind of a chance. I would think that the shelter
would have flat nylon collars that you could use when working with the dogs.
Best,
Ann
----- Original Message -----
From: "Shelley L. Rhodes" <juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <vi-clicker-trainers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 9:57 PM
Subject: (VICT) Re: other dogs question
> When I am clicker training with a dog with a chain collar I put the leash
> on
> the dead ring.
>
> Works well.
>
> Shelley L. Rhodes M.A., VRT, CTVI
> and Guinevere, Golden lady Guide
> juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Martha Harris" <latinanewschic@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <vi-clicker-trainers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 1:11 AM
> Subject: (VICT) Re: other dogs question
>
>
> Hi Ann,
> I will try, but the volunteers are always changing. There are people who
> feed, groom, clean up ETC, but the dog walkers are just other people. You
> don't even have to make an appointment; you can just drive there and ask
> if
> you can walk or play with the dogs and cats, and they let you pick.
> I really want to do clicker basic skills with the dogs. I did clicker with
> my guide to get better sit, down, and not pulling on the leash because
> when
> she wasn't in harness, she pulled really hard.
> One of my friends is going to go with me, so I am going to teach her
> clicker
> stuff too.
> I have read The Culture Clash, Getting Started Clicker training, Don't
> Shoot
> the dog, and a book by Pam Denison, but i don't remember. Are there any
> other books that I could read? What if the shelters have the dogs on chain
> collars? Do you think I should just put the leash on the dead ring? I
> don't
> want to accidentally pull on them, since it is still a reflexive action
> sometimes.
>
> Thanks for the help,
> Martha
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ann Edie" <annedie@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <vi-clicker-trainers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 1:14 AM
> Subject: (VICT) Re: other dogs question
>
>
>> Hi, Martha,
>>
>> Teaching shelter dogs basic companion skills is a great idea. It makes
>> the
>> dogs that much more adoptable. And teaching the skills with the clicker
>> will be a real time saver for the volunteers and a true life saver for
>> some
>> of the dogs. For many of them, it will be the first time any human spoke
>> to
>> them in a way that they could understand, and a way that recognized their
>> intelligence and showed some respect for their wants and needs. So, go
>> for
>> it! And I hope that you are going to teach the other volunteers to
>> clicker
>> train as well.
>>
>> The little dog training guide which we have recently been talking about
>> here
>> would be a good tool for the volunteers to use while training the dogs.
>> It's concise and covers the basics of what a pet dog needs to know. You
>> will have to teach the volunteers how to introduce clicker training to
>> the
>> dogs and give them the basics of the science of operant conditioning.
>> Sandy
>> Foushee's Basic Clicker Training lessons from this list's archives is a
>> great resource for this training too.
>>
>> Have fun, and let us know how it goes.
>>
>> Best,
>> Ann
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Martha Harris" <latinanewschic@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <vi-clicker-trainers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 10:44 PM
>> Subject: (VICT) other dogs question
>>
>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> I am a college student, and I joined a community service fraternity,
>>> alpha
>>> fi omega. We need 30 service hours for our group, and one of the places
>>> we
>>> go is the local SPCA. Most of these dogs have no training. They don't
>>> know
>>> sit or down, and they definitely don't know how to walk nicely on leash
>>> because all of the people who went yesterday gave up after 15 minutes
>>> and
>>> just let the dogs run because their arms hurt from their pulling.
>>> I was thinking of doing clicker training with the dogs to teach them,
>>> sit,
>>> down, heal on leash and maybe some other basic obedience stuff, so their
>>> new people won't have a hard time and the pvolunteers can walk easier.
>>> Do
>>> you think this would help, or is it a bad idea?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Martha
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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