(VICT) Re: Down and under
- From: "Martha Harris" <latinanewschic@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <vi-clicker-trainers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 23:22:10 -0400
Hi,
Try it with a chair that you can move that has enough space under it, like a
kitchen chair or something. If you can get the dog between your knees and
she is sitting, you can get her down. First, I taught Valerie to sit between
my knees loring her with food. At first, she sat in front of my open knees,
but she was facing me. After a few times of that not working, I held the
treat like i wanted a sit and moved my hand closer to my body. When she
figured out that sitting at my feet facing away was something she could try,
it was jack pot. Then, she eventually sat with her but and tail all the way
under the seat. After that, it was down. We got to the point where i could
gesture and she would push my knees apart to sit and immediately down. The
tail was tucked and I didn't have to physically maneuver her, which was nice
since I was usually holding a box of food or coffee, smile.
I don't know if this makes sense, but that's what I did with my dog. I
wanted this behavior since I spend a lot of time in lecture in an auditorium
with theater-style seets. This doesn't work on our campus buss because we
have children school buses where there is barely room to fit without your
knees hitting the seat in front of you.
HTH,
Martha
----- Original Message -----
From: "Shelley L. Rhodes" <juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <vi-clicker-trainers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: <bviclickertraining@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 10:03 PM
Subject: (VICT) Down and under
> O.k. so Judson learned this one over a long period of time before needing
> it. But Gwenna is unfortunately not getting that luxury.
>
> So... since it has been like six years since I did this, how do you train
> a
>
> Down and Under for bus seats, and chairs.
>
> She is fine under tables, in crates and the like, but we are having a hard
> time with buses, particularly positioning her hind feet and tail so they
> don't get stepped on. She got stepped on yesterday and I don't want her
> to
> get skittish when on the bus, but I also want her to tuck her self up
> under
> and safely under the bus and Train seats so she doesn't get hurt.
>
> I was thinking, particularly since park benches around here are well, not
> exactly ideal places to train, "Yuck" that I would just try on the buses
> and
> see if she could generalize. Was thinking of luring her down into the
> right
> position with a liver treat and c/t for the right position. She knows
> she
> has to lay down, but doesn't know to tuck herself under the seat.
>
> I do have a coffee table I could probably train with here at home, as it
> is
> about the right size.
>
> Wondering all of your's thoughts.
>
> Gwenna is a clicker wise dog, and we do use the clicker in our regular
> training, I am still highly reinforcing benches, poles, and empty seats,
> and
> she is finding things wickedly fast.
>
> Just wondering how I would go about training this.
>
> Come to think of it, the way the benches are, I usually didn't let Judson
> sit under them.
>
> I could attempt to find a fairly clean one though if that was required.
>
> Smile.
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> Shelley L. Rhodes M.A., VRT, CTVI
> and Guinevere, Golden lady Guide
> juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc.
> Graduate Alumni Association Board
> www.guidedogs.com
>
> More than Any other time, When i hold a beloved book in my hand, my
> limitations fall from me, my spirit is free.
> - Helen Keller
>
>
>
>
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