(VICT) Re: Our Latest Adventure: Things I am Still Learning

  • From: "kitty hevener" <khevener@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <vi-clicker-trainers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 10:13:29 -0800

Christy, thanks for teh good reminder of these terms.  I started reading 
Accelerated learning by pamela reid.  She discusses these and many other 
terms.  It's a tough read book, but think will learn alot if ever make it 
through all the details smile!!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Christy Hill" <care4k9@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <vi-clicker-trainers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 7:03 PM
Subject: (VICT) Re: Our Latest Adventure: Things I am Still Learning


> I'm following the conversation re
> positive versus negative techniques

      I'm a real stinker of terminology. Since clicker training is based on 
science
of behavior analysis we really need to clarify the terms. Realize that the 
layman
terms positive and negative are useless terms in clicker training or 
behavior
analysis and especially when describing operant conditioning.

       Clicker training is strictly positive reinforcement. Traditional 
methods that
use punishment is a combination of positive punishment techniques and 
negative
reinforcements.

         Confused? Here is to make it much more simplistic.

Positive means something added
Negative means something taken away

Reinforcement means the likelihood of the behavior to occur again
Punishment is suppression of the behavior

So positive reinforcement is something added to increase the likelihood of 
the
behavior increasing. This means adding food to see the behavior happen 
again.

Positive punishment is to add something that decreases the behavior. Giving 
a dog a
correction or a shock with an electronic collar to stop barking.

Negative punishment is to take something away to decrease a behavior. My 
favorite of
this is I take myself away from my dog when he tries to jump on me and the 
jump up
decreases.

Then we have one that is sometimes confusing. Negative Reinforcement. That 
is when
something is taken away to increase a behavior. This is more of an avoidance
technique. You use a choke collar on the dog to increase heeling. The dog 
wants to
avoid the pain, so they take them away or avoid the yank of the choke chain 
to
increase heeling.

I know this terminology can get difficult to understand, but it does tell 
you how the
typical layman terms do not fit when you are discussing operant conditioning 
terms or
clicker training.

For further reading, you can go to:

http://www.wagntrain.com/OC/

Christy



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