I did as Chuck suggests, I downloaded all the updates for 98/98SE and burnt them to CD. One thing that I'd like to point out though, Win 95 is still being used by many, and so is Win 3.1(by far less), but they can both access any website. As for Win2k, every time I've downloaded SP4 & installed it, I've not been able to access the internet. Upon uninstallation & reverting to my previous back up, then I regain connectivity. The one time I didn't backup my working installation I had to reformat & reinstall. As to any one that excludes me from accessing a website because of my OS preferences IMO (s)/he is a fool - like a vendor would be who refuses to be paid by credit card(just a for instance). I just won't pay for another lemon, that's all. I got a couple of them already in 98 & 2K - fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me! I don't see what it is that XP can do that I might not be able to do with what I have. Security & use of NTFS? What security...? Remember "blaster"! IE6 sec. updates, & what has yet to be fixed...? Support? What support? Never got much from them anyway? That's why this and thousands of support groups and websites exist and when M$ tells me "ain't no more comin'", there's nothing I can do about it. Heck, it's often an outsider who discovers a new flaw or weakness in Windows anyway! What they do at Redmond I don't know...Oops,yes I know, make money from trusting gullible customers who cannot return the defective merchandise they buy. Lest you purchase a new PC, which will in all probability have XP, don't waste your money in "upgrading". If you do, make sure the hardware you have will accommodate XP or you may just have to end up buying a new box to fit the OS. TMO. Quitting my bellyaching now, thanks for putting up with me. armando <GRIN> On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 14:10:05 EST, ChasM49@xxxxxxx wrote: In a message dated 12/18/2003 11:45:11 AM Central Standard Time, brian99@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: switching vs. keeping windows 98. simple... if you "want to keep 98".. go to langa's site and do as he says to collect all the files you will need..... but keep one thing in mind..... after we hit 2004 and get on down the year.... lots more places on the web will be dependent upon xp styling programs etc to work.... so......and handwrting is on the wall just about clear as a bell.... upgrade... MS is forcing that and no way around it unless you go to linux maybe...... you can try being a holdout... but for how long?.... its a bummer and dont see any way around it..... and xp will be soon be gone by the wayside in couple of years..... heck... I have a box full of discs for dos,win3.0,3.1 win 95,and the major protion of them are simply that.. box of old discs that will not run on xp... soon be same for 98,98se,me ..... add them to the box also..... need me a bigger box maybe..... next is longhorn..... and loads of stuff I have will be added to the box....... its coming..... and not much we can do about it ,other than to unplug the pc if we try to keep outmoded systems,unless we just want to have a display unit on the shelf..... chuck...in ok ________________________________________________ PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com VIEW ARCHIVES @ //www.freelists.org UNSUBSCRIBE by sending email to triadtechtalk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with unsubscribe in the Subject field. To VIEW/CHANGE your subscription status go to //www.freelists.org/webpage/triadtechtalk Contact List Owner - dbcfour@xxxxxxx