[tn-moths] Re: Help with some micros
- From: kjchilds <kjchilds@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "tn-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <tn-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 15:34:40 -0700 (PDT)
From my point of view, there's no reason that a moth species found in NE
Oklahoma would not also be found in west TN, especially when you consider that
not many people are documenting moths in Arkansas or west TN. Basically Marvin
is Arkansas and I'm west TN!
Ken Childs
Henderson, TN
Chester County
http://tinyurl.com/FinishFlagFarmsMoths
http://www.finishflagfarms.com
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From: J. Merrill Lynch <jmerrilllynch@xxxxxxxxx>
To: tn-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 4:17 PM
Subject: [tn-moths] Re: Help with some micros
It's the confusion between wings pan of spread specimens and forewing length of
a wing. And when I say west I mean TX, OK, NE and parts west-look at MPG.
Merrill
On Apr 20, 2012 5:02 PM, "kjchilds" <kjchilds@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I just did some digging and 2 of the Oklahoma records for Ephestiodes
gilvescentella belong to Mark Dreiling and were verified by DNA barcoding.
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>Ken Childs
>Henderson, TN
>Chester County
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>http://tinyurl.com/FinishFlagFarmsMoths
>http://www.finishflagfarms.com
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> From: kjchilds <kjchilds@xxxxxxxxx>
>To: "ncsc-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <ncsc-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Cc: TN-Moths <tn-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 3:34 PM
>Subject: [ncsc-moths] Re: Help with some micros
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>I was using the size range for Euzophera semifuneralis on BG which is listed
>as "wingspan 20-25 mm". If that's wrong, you should notify one of the BG guys
>in the FB mothing group to change the info. Even then, the FW length on this
>moth is less than 5mm.
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>I'm going by the MPG range map for Ephestiodes gilvescentella. If any of those
>east of the Rockies records are accurate then I think it's a definite
>possibility.
>http://mothphotographersgroup.msstate.edu/large_map.php?hodges=6000 ;
>
>Ken Childs
>Henderson, TN
>Chester County
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>http://tinyurl.com/FinishFlagFarmsMoths
>http://www.finishflagfarms.com
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> From: J. Merrill Lynch <jmerrilllynch@xxxxxxxxx>
>To: ncsc-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 3:22 PM
>Subject: [ncsc-moths] Re: Help with some micros
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>Euzophera semifuneralis is a small moth--it can be as small as 7mm FW length.
> According to MPG range maps and the MONA Pyraloidea fascicle, Ephestiodes
>gilvescentella is a western moth--what is the source for the records from the
>east you cite?
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>Merrill
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>On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 3:43 PM, kjchilds <kjchilds@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> The TL of the moth in pic 4658 was only 6 mm so it's too small for 5995
>> Euzophera semifuneralis but it is the right size for Ephestiodes.
>> There are records for Ephestiodes gilvescentella in Maryland, Florida and
>> Oklahoma which is why I'm considering it.
>>
>> Ken Childs
>> Henderson, TN
>> Chester County
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>> http://tinyurl.com/FinishFlagFarmsMoths
>> http://www.finishflagfarms.com
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>> From: J. Merrill Lynch <jmerrilllynch@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: tn-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Cc: "ncsc-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <ncsc-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 2:11 PM
>> Subject: [tn-moths] Re: Help with some micros
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>> Ken, pic 4658 looks like 5995 Euzophera semifuneralis to me. Not
>> familiar with the other micro--could be Ephestiodes but gilvescentella
>> according to MPG is a more western species.
>>
>> Merrill
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>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 2:03 PM, kjchilds <kjchilds@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> My best guesses for these 2 are:
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>>> IMG_4628 is 6000 Ephestiodes gilvescentella
>>> IMG_4658 is 6001 Ephestiodes infimella.
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>>> Yes, no, maybe?
>>>
>>> Ken Childs
>>> Henderson, TN
>>> Chester County
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>>> http://tinyurl.com/FinishFlagFarmsMoths
>>> http://www.finishflagfarms.com
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>> J. Merrill Lynch
>> Echo Valley Farm
>> Watauga County, NC
>> Elevation: 3,400 feet
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>J. Merrill Lynch
>Echo Valley Farm
>Watauga County, NC
>Elevation: 3,400 feet
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