[tn-moths] Re: Help with some micros

  • From: "J. Merrill Lynch" <jmerrilllynch@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: tn-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 17:17:14 -0400

It's the confusion between wings pan of spread specimens and forewing
length of a wing.  And when I say west I mean TX, OK, NE and parts
west-look at MPG.

Merrill
On Apr 20, 2012 5:02 PM, "kjchilds" <kjchilds@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> I just did some digging and 2 of the Oklahoma records for Ephestiodes
> gilvescentella belong to Mark Dreiling and were verified by DNA
> barcoding.
>
> Ken Childs
> Henderson, TN
> Chester County
>
> http://tinyurl.com/FinishFlagFarmsMoths
> http://www.finishflagfarms.com
>
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> *From:* kjchilds <kjchilds@xxxxxxxxx>
> *To:* "ncsc-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <ncsc-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> *Cc:* TN-Moths <tn-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> *Sent:* Friday, April 20, 2012 3:34 PM
> *Subject:* [ncsc-moths] Re: Help with some micros
>
> I was using the size range for Euzophera semifuneralis on BG which is
> listed as "wingspan 20-25 mm". If that's wrong, you should notify one of
> the BG guys in the FB mothing group to change the info. Even then, the FW
> length on this moth is less than 5mm.
>
> I'm going by the MPG range map for Ephestiodes gilvescentella. If any of
> those east of the Rockies records are accurate then I think it's a definite
> possibility.
> http://mothphotographersgroup.msstate.edu/large_map.php?hodges=6000
>
> Ken Childs
> Henderson, TN
> Chester County
>
> http://tinyurl.com/FinishFlagFarmsMoths
> http://www.finishflagfarms.com
>
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> *From:* J. Merrill Lynch <jmerrilllynch@xxxxxxxxx>
> *To:* ncsc-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Sent:* Friday, April 20, 2012 3:22 PM
> *Subject:* [ncsc-moths] Re: Help with some micros
>
> Euzophera semifuneralis *is* a small moth--it can be as small as 7mm FW
> length.  According to MPG range maps and the MONA Pyraloidea fascicle,
> Ephestiodes gilvescentella is a western moth--what is the source for the
> records from the east you cite?
>
> Merrill
>
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 3:43 PM, kjchilds <kjchilds@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > The TL of the moth in pic 4658 was only 6 mm so it's too small for 5995
> > Euzophera semifuneralis but it is the right size for Ephestiodes.
> > There are records for Ephestiodes gilvescentella in Maryland, Florida and
> > Oklahoma which is why I'm considering it.
> >
> > Ken Childs
> > Henderson, TN
> > Chester County
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/FinishFlagFarmsMoths
> > http://www.finishflagfarms.com
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: J. Merrill Lynch <jmerrilllynch@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: tn-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Cc: "ncsc-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <ncsc-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 2:11 PM
> > Subject: [tn-moths] Re: Help with some micros
> >
> > Ken,  pic 4658 looks like 5995 Euzophera semifuneralis to me.  Not
> > familiar with the other micro--could be Ephestiodes but gilvescentella
> > according to MPG is a more western species.
> >
> > Merrill
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 2:03 PM, kjchilds <kjchilds@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> My best guesses for these 2 are:
> >>
> >> IMG_4628 is 6000 Ephestiodes gilvescentella
> >> IMG_4658 is 6001 Ephestiodes infimella.
> >>
> >> Yes, no, maybe?
> >>
> >> Ken Childs
> >> Henderson, TN
> >> Chester County
> >>
> >> http://tinyurl.com/FinishFlagFarmsMoths
> >> http://www.finishflagfarms.com
> >
> >
> >
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> > J. Merrill Lynch
> > Echo Valley Farm
> > Watauga County, NC
> > Elevation:  3,400 feet
> >
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> J. Merrill Lynch
> Echo Valley Farm
> Watauga County, NC
> Elevation:  3,400 feet
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