Estimate seems high to me.? Some of the central and west Tennessee counties may have 300+ shrikes, but not many.? It has been many years since I birded much in east Tennessee, but shrikes were very hard to come by.? Even in Lawrence County, where I still bird irregularly and shrikes are still "common", I would probably have to work hard to find 300 shrikes.? I could probably find 100+ if I drove enough roads, but 300 would be tough.? I did not spend time in Lawrence County this summer.? Interestingly (and frightening), I was not able to find a single shrike in Lauderdale and Colbert Counties (Alabama) this summer.? I did not make a specific search, but visited many areas of these counties where shrikes have always been regular.? If I see similar results next year, I will try to make a road by road search through the farm country of these counties to quantify my observations. Damien Simbeck Killen, AL -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Stedman <SStedman@xxxxxxxxxx> To: tn-bird@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 11:45 am Subject: [TN-Bird] pif landbird population estimate for loggerhead shrike in tn I was just looking through the Partners in Flight website, which features much useful information relating to North American birds. One of these features is a section that provides landbird population estimates for North America or for any state or province in North America where Breeding Bird Surveys are conducted. One of the species provided with a population estimate in Tennessee is Loggerhead Shrike. The population estimate for that species in Tennessee is 29,000 (i.e., an average of 300 shrikes--150 pairs--per county), and the data on which the estimate is based is rated to be of the highest quality among the categories by which data quality is rated. I am wondering what other folk in the state think of this PIF estimate for the shrike population in our state. Please respond to the entire readership. Steve Stedman Cookeville, TN If you want to check out the PIF population estimates for other species, I provide below a website address for the PIF website; copy and paste into the appropriate space of your browser; when you get to that page, scroll down and look near the bottom for the link to "PIF Landbird Population Estimates"; when you get to that page, scroll down to the last paragraph and click on the link for "states and provinces"; when you get to that page, select the species you want a population estimate for in the box to the far left; then select TN in the box for states and provinces; then click on "submit." ttp://www.partnersinflight.org [put an "h" at the beginning of this address after you copy it into your browser] =================NOTES TO SUBSCRIBER===================== The TN-Bird Net requires you to SIGN YOUR MESSAGE with first and last name, CITY (TOWN) and state abbreviation. You are also required to list the COUNTY in which the birds you report were seen. 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