As a scientist, I just want to play Devil's advocate for a moment. While = I agree that common names are more familiar to most, some birds have = several common names (i.e. the cardinal is sometimes called redbird, kestrel is sometimes called sparrowhawk), or species with the same common name in different parts of the world are unrelated (the European Blackbird is actually a thrush, American Robins are thrushes, but the European Robin = is related to chickadees and titmice). The whole idea behind the scientific naming method is that those names are unique to those species. No other organism on the planet is Turdus migratorius, but there are a number of robin species. By using scientific names, EVERYONE can know EXACTLY = which species is being referred to. One reason we (North Americans) are so attached to common names is that is what we learn. In Latin America, = they learn primarily the scientific names. When I was doing my doctoral = research, 2 Costa Rican and one Venezuelan ornithologist came to visit our study = site. Two of them (1 of the Costa Ricans and the Venezuelan) were unfamiliar = with our common names. When we said Hooded Warbler, they had no idea what we = were talking about until the third person said Wilsonia citrina. Again, I am = not suggesting we all start learning scientific names, but now some of you = may know the reasoning behind, and the advantages of, knowing that system. David Aborn Chattanooga, TN -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- Isn't it a bit pretentious to be using bird names that only scientists = can=20 understand? I see an important part of birdwatching as getting as many people as possible involved in bird awareness and conservation, not form = a clique of stuck-up, snobby, exclusive, elitists. Is it easier to say American Robin, and instantly be on familiar ground with the non-birders = we are trying to reach, or call it Turdus Migratorius and instantly = alienate people? I think it is Very important to know scientific names but it is even more important to use terms that non-birders, especially children, = can be comfortable with. By doing this we can expand the ranks of birders = and help to protect and increase the numbers of endangered birds and other species. Any little thing we can do to win people to our cause must not = be wasted. Nat Winston III Hermitage, Tn. =================NOTES TO SUBSCRIBER===================== The TN-Bird Net requires you to sign your messages with first and last name, city (town) and state abbreviation. ----------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------- To post to this mailing list, simply send email to: tn-bird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ----------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to: tn-bird-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * TN-Bird Net is owned by the Tennessee Ornithological Society Neither the society(TOS) nor its moderator(s) endorse the views or opinions expressed by the members of this discussion group. Moderator: Wallace Coffey, Bristol, TN jwcoffey@xxxxxxxxxx * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Visit the Tennessee Ornithological Society web site at http://www.tnbirds.org * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Topographical Maps located at http://topozone.com/find.asp * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ========================================================