[TN-Bird] Re: Exotic waterfowl, Rutherford County

  • From: kde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • To: "Daniel B. Estabrooks" <dbe2g@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 10:52:48 -0400 (EDT)

I think a lot of the ABA's reluctance to "accept" introduced populations 
has come from having actually accepted species that seemed to be firmly 
established for decades but eventually suffered a population crash 
like Budgerigar in tha Tampa area (barely hanging on) and Crested Myna in 
Vancouver (gone).  

Personally, I think this conservative approach is very warranted and 
that recent acceptance of species like the ("re")introduced Trumpeter 
Swans in the Great Lakes region is premature.

I would rather see ABA "accept" (and field guides include) real US species 
like 'Akikiki, 'Akiapola'au, and 'Oma'o.

Dean Edwards
Knoxville, TN







On Tue, 23 Oct 2012, Daniel B. Estabrooks wrote:

> That's probably the same Egyptian Goose that hung out at MTSU for a few 
> days back in early September. Not countable, but a beautiful bird 
> nonetheless :-)
> 
> If I remember correctly, there was an article in Birding a couple years 
> ago about Egyptian Geese. It said that there is an established and 
> apparently self-sustaining population in Florida that hasn't been 
> accepted by the ABA because it hasn't been accepted by the Florida 
> records committee. Acceptance of exotics seems to be very slow by the 
> ABA and state organizations. (For example, I think it's pretty hard to 
> argue that the Rosy-faced Lovebirds in Phoenix aren't self-sustaining, 
> but they still haven't been accepted.) Sometimes, the conspiracy 
> theorist in me wonders if they're trying to paint a rosier picture of 
> our ecological health by just ignoring all except the most obvious ones 
> (starlings, House Sparrows, Rock Pigeons, etc.), though, to be fair, 
> most of these birds (especially the parrots) are occupying new 
> human-created niches and are not particularly invasive.
> 
> Daniel
> 
> ________________________________
> From: tn-bird-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [tn-bird-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] on behalf 
> of Terry Witt [terrywitt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 5:46 AM
> To: tn-bird
> Subject: [TN-Bird] Exotic waterfowl, Rutherford County
> 
> I received a call yesterday that an Egyptian Goose had joined the large flock 
> of semiwild Canada Geese which hang around Gateway Pond behind the hospital 
> in Murfreesboro.  This species is not currently accepted on the ABA list, all 
> sightings are considered to be escapes with no wild self-sustaining 
> population now in N America.  A few weeks ago, a Graylag Goose appeared there 
> and stayed a few days.  This bird breeds in Iceland and N Europe, and there 
> is one accepted ABA record from 2005 when a goose landed on an oil-drilling 
> ship 100 miles south of Newfoundland.
> 
> Gatherings of domestic waterfowl frequently attract genuine wild birds, and I 
> remember seeing my first Ross's Goose on a golf course in SE Arizona one 
> winter, with a flock of tame geese that would accept food from people at 
> close range; some of you may also remember the Tundra Swan that appeared on a 
> small pond behind an apartment complex in W Nashville and stayed for some 
> time in winter as well.
> 
> These flocks of domestic birds are always worth checking for an unexpected 
> visitor.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Terry Witt
> 
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