[TN-Bird] Re: Exotic waterfowl, Rutherford County
- From: Jon Mann <dback_jon@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "kde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <kde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Daniel B. Estabrooks" <dbe2g@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 09:28:25 -0700 (PDT)
How ABA treats the Rosy-faced Lovebird is going to be a big test of the current
philosophy. The Lovebird clearly meets all of the ABA's own criteria for
accepting exotics, so if they don't, they need to either scrap the criteria, or
get new committee members.
The Lovebird is now on the Arizona Bird List, and the population in the Phoenix
Metro area has grown substantially in the 6 years I have been back in Arizona.
They are now fairly easy to find in most Phoenix, Tempe and Scottsdale Parks.
I have a pair that nest in the Date Palms in my neighbor's front yard - they
raised two broods this year, so I have small flock of a dozen that hangs around
my house. Only birds that seem to have been affected were the Starlings that
used to dominate the palms.
Jon Mann
Scottsdale AZ
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From: "kde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <kde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Daniel B. Estabrooks <dbe2g@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "tn-bird@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <tn-bird@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 7:52 AM
Subject: [TN-Bird] Re: Exotic waterfowl, Rutherford County
I think a lot of the ABA's reluctance to "accept" introduced populations
has come from having actually accepted species that seemed to be firmly
established for decades but eventually suffered a population crash
like Budgerigar in tha Tampa area (barely hanging on) and Crested Myna in
Vancouver (gone).
Personally, I think this conservative approach is very warranted and
that recent acceptance of species like the ("re")introduced Trumpeter
Swans in the Great Lakes region is premature.
I would rather see ABA "accept" (and field guides include) real US species
like 'Akikiki, 'Akiapola'au, and 'Oma'o.
Dean Edwards
Knoxville, TN
On Tue, 23 Oct 2012, Daniel B. Estabrooks wrote:
> That's probably the same Egyptian Goose that hung out at MTSU for a few
> days back in early September. Not countable, but a beautiful bird
> nonetheless :-)
>
> If I remember correctly, there was an article in Birding a couple years
> ago about Egyptian Geese. It said that there is an established and
> apparently self-sustaining population in Florida that hasn't been
> accepted by the ABA because it hasn't been accepted by the Florida
> records committee. Acceptance of exotics seems to be very slow by the
> ABA and state organizations. (For example, I think it's pretty hard to
> argue that the Rosy-faced Lovebirds in Phoenix aren't self-sustaining,
> but they still haven't been accepted.) Sometimes, the conspiracy
> theorist in me wonders if they're trying to paint a rosier picture of
> our ecological health by just ignoring all except the most obvious ones
> (starlings, House Sparrows, Rock Pigeons, etc.), though, to be fair,
> most of these birds (especially the parrots) are occupying new
> human-created niches and are not particularly invasive.
>
> Daniel
>
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> From: tn-bird-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [tn-bird-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] on behalf
> of Terry Witt [terrywitt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 5:46 AM
> To: tn-bird
> Subject: [TN-Bird] Exotic waterfowl, Rutherford County
>
> I received a call yesterday that an Egyptian Goose had joined the large flock
> of semiwild Canada Geese which hang around Gateway Pond behind the hospital
> in Murfreesboro. This species is not currently accepted on the ABA list, all
> sightings are considered to be escapes with no wild self-sustaining
> population now in N America. A few weeks ago, a Graylag Goose appeared there
> and stayed a few days. This bird breeds in Iceland and N Europe, and there
> is one accepted ABA record from 2005 when a goose landed on an oil-drilling
> ship 100 miles south of Newfoundland.
>
> Gatherings of domestic waterfowl frequently attract genuine wild birds, and I
> remember seeing my first Ross's Goose on a golf course in SE Arizona one
> winter, with a flock of tame geese that would accept food from people at
> close range; some of you may also remember the Tundra Swan that appeared on a
> small pond behind an apartment complex in W Nashville and stayed for some
> time in winter as well.
>
> These flocks of domestic birds are always worth checking for an unexpected
> visitor.
>
> Cheers
>
> Terry Witt
>
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