[THIN] Re: softricity for the Enterprise
- From: "Shonk, Joe - Perot" <JShonk@xxxxxxx>
- To: "'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 08:43:15 -0700
Precisely... When a hospital has to look at spending 30k of captial on
software vs 30k on a Laser. Which do you think is going to win? The Laser
has a higher ROI than the software does.
Joe
-----Original Message-----
From: Lilley, Brian [mailto:brian.lilley@xxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 8:41 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: softricity for the Enterprise
I can see why it is so expensive, but wouldn't Softricity be wiser to make
it
more affordable, simply to get the big guys hooked in! I think alot of
businesses would jump at this stuff if it is mature enough.
Surely, Softricity would make wedges more cash simply on numbers...:o) plus
all the surrounding support and of course, the inevitable accreditation$$$$
just my 50 pence worth...
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Claudio Rodrigues
Sent: 30 April 2004 16:35
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: softricity for the Enterprise
The same here. I am trying to get it so we can try/evaluate to see the
cost/benefit on the solution.
But I guess in our case the price tag will be huge as we have more than
1,100 concurrent users on Citrix.
The concept is simply amazing and for sure I can see benefit on it. But
I am not the one writing the checks. :-)
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Lilley, Brian
Sent: April 30, 2004 11:29 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: softricity for the Enterprise
Hi Claudio, thanks for your response... very much appreciated...
I agree, looks very expensive..
I was thinking about using it in a disaster recovery solution, so
perhaps just
a small setup at first, just to get the technology in the door??
Once this stuff is in, I think it is much easier to persuade the
appropriate
people about the cost benefits, especially when so much has been
invested in
bespoke app delivery products which are complex and require a lot of
continual
in-house development.
Brian
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Claudio Rodrigues
Sent: 30 April 2004 16:18
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: softricity for the Enterprise
From what I have heard (I even spoke to someone from Softricity this
week) not everything works. When it works is awesome and a GREAT
product/solution. But it has a BIG price tag so your upfront investment
on the overall TS solution will increase a lot.
In some places even if you show to them they will save money down the
road, the solution pays itself in 12 months etc, they cannot simply
justify another $50K, $200K on top (costs depend on what you want and
for how many people).
If you think a 200 user TS solution using Windows 2003 would cost you
around (software):
5 Server licenses, $5000
200 TS CALs, $12000
200 CALs, $1000
Total: $18000
The you start adding stuff like:
- Citrix: an extra $50000-60000
- ThinPrint/Screwdrivers: $8000+
Just on 'options' - and I did not add all the common options we normally
use - you added another $60000-70000! That is crazy, 3 to 4 times the
original price.=3D20
Softricity will add a lot to the cost for sure. :-)
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Lilley, Brian
Sent: April 30, 2004 5:25 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] softricity for the Enterprise
Comrades,
What do we think of Softricity as an enterprise solution to application
deployment and hosting in a global citrix environment?
I have absolutley no experienc of this platform, but what it says on the
tin
could just about save me a right load of hassle! How does it perform?
I was thinking of getting Softricity in to our business under the guise
of a
DR solution! Just think, a minimum no. of servers being able to run any
of
their 1000 apps (except IE it seems??) in any combination on any blade!
Experiences, opinions and comments very much welcomed....
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