[THIN] Re: VMWare

  • From: "Joe Shonk" <joe.shonk@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 09:02:20 -0700

Ugh. With GSX, your VM is only going to be able to utilize 1 Processor at
time.  With ESX you can utilize vSMP as needed.  Not to mention that with
ESX, you can oversubscribe the memory.   So with GSX you'll get 2-4 VMs per
proc, with ESX you can get 4-8 VMs per Proc.   

 

Joe

 

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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Kaftan, John
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 8:55 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: VMWare

 

Well we have not had a chance to play with it yet so we weren't sure about
performance.  Yes we assume overhead for the host but we did not know how
much and if we would feel the pain.  Looks like from your experience we
would.  Our terminal servers are dual proc 1-2 GHtz with 4 Gb RAM.  Looks
like we would only be able to utilize one proc plus we would lose resources
to the host so we would be in pretty bad shape.

 

We really do not like imaging because of the high overhead of maintaining
the images.  Also then we would need a one-to-one regarding hardware in
Production and DR and we were looking for consolation in DR.  Also with GSX
on every box then we have one virtual hardware platform for all boxes which
would take the sting out of moving servers around to different hardware
types in production.

 

Looks like we would need to do a physical to virtual conversion in order to
consolidate in DR.

 

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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Jeff Pitsch
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 6:07 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: VMWare

 

so you destroy performance for recovery?  Wouldn't ghost or some other
imaging program give you almost exactly the same thing without taking the
immense performance hit?

 

Jeff

 

On 10/28/05, Dogers <dogers@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: 

On 28/10/05, Kaftan, John < <mailto:jkaftan@xxxxxxx>  jkaftan@xxxxxxx>
wrote: 

We looked at VMware ESX and the major stumbling block was cost.  However we
were looking at buying GSX and putting it on every server with a single VM
on it just to maximize our flexibility.  If a particular physical server
died we could easily move the dsk file to another server.  Also we could get
one copy of ESX for DR and easily port multiple GSX dsk files to the ESX
server if need be. 

If the disks die, you aint moving anything :)

Andrew

 

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