Ugh. With GSX, your VM is only going to be able to utilize 1 Processor at time. With ESX you can utilize vSMP as needed. Not to mention that with ESX, you can oversubscribe the memory. So with GSX you'll get 2-4 VMs per proc, with ESX you can get 4-8 VMs per Proc. Joe _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kaftan, John Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 8:55 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: VMWare Well we have not had a chance to play with it yet so we weren't sure about performance. Yes we assume overhead for the host but we did not know how much and if we would feel the pain. Looks like from your experience we would. Our terminal servers are dual proc 1-2 GHtz with 4 Gb RAM. Looks like we would only be able to utilize one proc plus we would lose resources to the host so we would be in pretty bad shape. We really do not like imaging because of the high overhead of maintaining the images. Also then we would need a one-to-one regarding hardware in Production and DR and we were looking for consolation in DR. Also with GSX on every box then we have one virtual hardware platform for all boxes which would take the sting out of moving servers around to different hardware types in production. Looks like we would need to do a physical to virtual conversion in order to consolidate in DR. _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeff Pitsch Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 6:07 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: VMWare so you destroy performance for recovery? Wouldn't ghost or some other imaging program give you almost exactly the same thing without taking the immense performance hit? Jeff On 10/28/05, Dogers <dogers@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: On 28/10/05, Kaftan, John < <mailto:jkaftan@xxxxxxx> jkaftan@xxxxxxx> wrote: We looked at VMware ESX and the major stumbling block was cost. However we were looking at buying GSX and putting it on every server with a single VM on it just to maximize our flexibility. If a particular physical server died we could easily move the dsk file to another server. Also we could get one copy of ESX for DR and easily port multiple GSX dsk files to the ESX server if need be. If the disks die, you aint moving anything :) Andrew