[THIN] Re: VMWare
- From: "Kaftan, John" <jkaftan@xxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 08:32:45 -0800
Ok thanks all for humoring me. I'm bailing on the idea.
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Joe Shonk
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 8:02 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: VMWare
Ugh... With GSX, your VM is only going to be able to utilize 1 Processor
at time... With ESX you can utilize vSMP as needed. Not to mention
that with ESX, you can oversubscribe the memory. So with GSX you'll
get 2-4 VMs per proc, with ESX you can get 4-8 VMs per Proc.
Joe
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Kaftan, John
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 8:55 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: VMWare
Well we have not had a chance to play with it yet so we weren't sure
about performance. Yes we assume overhead for the host but we did not
know how much and if we would feel the pain. Looks like from your
experience we would. Our terminal servers are dual proc 1-2 GHtz with 4
Gb RAM. Looks like we would only be able to utilize one proc plus we
would lose resources to the host so we would be in pretty bad shape.
We really do not like imaging because of the high overhead of
maintaining the images. Also then we would need a one-to-one regarding
hardware in Production and DR and we were looking for consolation in DR.
Also with GSX on every box then we have one virtual hardware platform
for all boxes which would take the sting out of moving servers around to
different hardware types in production.
Looks like we would need to do a physical to virtual conversion in order
to consolidate in DR.
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Jeff Pitsch
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 6:07 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: VMWare
so you destroy performance for recovery? Wouldn't ghost or some other
imaging program give you almost exactly the same thing without taking
the immense performance hit?
Jeff
On 10/28/05, Dogers <dogers@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 28/10/05, Kaftan, John < jkaftan@xxxxxxx <mailto:jkaftan@xxxxxxx> >
wrote:
We looked at VMware ESX and the major stumbling block was cost.
However we were looking at buying GSX and putting it on every server
with a single VM on it just to maximize our flexibility. If a
particular physical server died we could easily move the dsk file to
another server. Also we could get one copy of ESX for DR and easily
port multiple GSX dsk files to the ESX server if need be.
If the disks die, you aint moving anything :)
Andrew
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