Thanks Rick. I've been way down the printer driver route with no evidence that it's the cause of the trouble. The print spooler behaves nicely and we use almost exclusively native MS drivers anyway. I have licenses I can use for a new farm (the public sector in the UK would rather buy new licenses instead of keeping up subs advantage) so a new farm isn't much of a problem to do. -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Rick Mack Sent: 17 May 2007 12:47 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Taking a big downgrading step Hi Angus, I'm surprised Citrix couldn't help you resolve your issues, particularly since there are some really good Citrix SEs in the UK. However before you throw out your PS3 farm completely, would you be willing to give us some details about your printer setup? Do you use network printers (and local printer drivers) or are you using a third party printer driver solution? As you probably know, the Stressprinters utility was introduced to identify PS4 printing issues (dud drivers), but if you're running the latest HP printer drivers then spooler instability and memory corruption caused by the drivers could be taking out your PS3 IMA service and/or RPC service. Try bouncing the spooler service to see what happens to the unresponsive IMA service? If that works, then printer drivers have to be high on your list of reasons for your problems. As far as licensing goes, it's stating the obvious that XP and PS3 use different licensing methodologies. If you upgraded your PS3 farm from XP then the licenses are still present and you could technically just join your XP servers to the PS3 farm. If you didn't upgrade then you'll need a new farm/datastore. Having said that, I'd opt for a new farm (datastore) regardless because the datastore structures are somewhat different and it might cause new problems that you don't need if you're escaping existing ones. It's not that hard to export/import published apps etc from one farm to the other. Anyway, good luck. regards, Rick -- Ulrich Mack Commander Australia On 5/17/07, Angus Macdonald < Angus.Macdonald@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: I've been struggling with a big problem on my main PS3 / W2K3 farm for a long time now. I've posted here a few times but never managed to get to the bottom of it. Basically, servers become unresponsive to ICA traffic, requiring a reboot. The server itself runs fine but Citrix sessions die, the IMA cannot be stopped or started etc etc. This has become such an issue for us, I'm planning to downgrade to MFXP which has always behaved impeccably on another of our farms. The question is, if I uninstall PS3 and install MFXP on a server for testing purposes, will I be able to join it to the existing PS3 farm, or will I have to create a new MFXP farm? PS4 is out of the question because of problems between it and our main app and HP terminals. Angus