[THIN] Re: MS Antivirus \ Spyware
- From: "Berger, Gunnar" <GBerger@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 08:32:16 -0500
As much as I personally have a problem with MS pushing the market away from
competitors I have to give them credit from a business standpoint. I very much
like the idea of AV being a part of the OS. I know they aren't saying that but
we all know where MS goes given enough time, first they have to push the
competition out then they start integrating it into the OS, or vice versa. The
more they integrate into the OS, the easier it is on the end users. Yes from
an Administrator stand point getting IE out of the OS is near impossible if you
want to be anal and force FireFox on all your users, but for the average home
user they need IE preloaded and they need AV preloaded. Once they get a
version of Kazaa that isn't full of spyware preloaded then we'll really be
talking.
Gunnar
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of
Jim Kerr
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 11:09 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: MS Antivirus \ Spyware
It isn't. Those words are deceiving. It can find some of the larger exploits
but Microsoft tells you to make sure to use a good AV package too.
----- Original Message -----
From: Claus, <mailto:BClaus@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Brian
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 10:08 AM
Subject: [THIN] Re: MS Antivirus \ Spyware
It >>IS<< an antivirus program:
"WASHINGTON (AP) -- Microsoft Corp., whose popular Windows software is a
frequent target for Internet viruses, is offering a free security program to
remove the most dangerous infections from computers."
If you looked at the article I linked there is a picture showing: "MSBLAST.A,
SASSER and MyDoom as detected \ removed" Sounds like AV to me.
--Brian
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Evan Mann
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 9:26 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: MS Antivirus \ Spyware
It's >NOT< an AntiVirus tool. It's AntiSpyware, and it labelled so. I
just realized the subject from the original post said AntiVirus. That
isn't correct.
There's a grey area between something being a virus or spyware, so while
the MS AntiSpyware program may pick up some things that are picked up by
software that does AV only (I mean strictly AV, with no additional
spyware checks/removal like some of the newer version do), it doesn't
make it an AntiVirus product.
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Claus, Brian
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 9:12 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: MS Antivirus \ Spyware
I don't think they intend this to replace commercial AV but as a
"hotfix", if you will, against the top virus \ spyware threats out
there. We all know how many home users have no AV at all or they think
their expired AV that came with their PC is good enough. Then there's
the "Spyware, what's that?" question...
--Brian
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Evan Mann
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 4:59 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: MS Antivirus \ Spyware
I wouldn't see a need to run Spyware apps on my servers, so I had no
reason to test it there. I tested on my XP machine, and so did my other
techs. It found some things you wouldn't need it to, like VNC, and
Dameware NT Utilities as potential threats, but the default action was
Ignore . I choose to Always Ignore on those type of apps.
Ideally an enterprise console would let you specify what to ignore ahead
of time. Sunbelt's CounterSpy Enterprise, which is built on the same
technology, has these features.
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Berdt van der Lingen
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 4:56 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: MS Antivirus \ Spyware
On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 16:11:09 -0500, Evan Mann
<emann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> I've downloaded this, installed it, ran it, and it's pretty
impressive.
> Lots of functionality. Hopefully MS puts out an enterprise deployment
> console for this when it releases.
Microsoft's (beta) anti-spyware program detects tapicfg.exe on Windows
Server 2003 as CoolWebSearch spyware - impressive!
--
regards,
Berdt
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