[THIN] Re: MS Antivirus \ Spyware

  • From: "Jim Kerr" <jim@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 11:09:13 -0500

It isn't.   Those words are deceiving.  It can find some of the larger exploits 
but Microsoft tells you to make sure to use a good AV package too.


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Claus, Brian 
  To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 10:08 AM
  Subject: [THIN] Re: MS Antivirus \ Spyware


  It >>IS<< an antivirus program:

   

  "WASHINGTON (AP) -- Microsoft Corp., whose popular Windows software is a 
frequent target for Internet viruses, is offering a free security program to 
remove the most dangerous infections from computers."

   

  If you looked at the article I linked there is a picture showing:  
"MSBLAST.A, SASSER and MyDoom as detected \ removed"  Sounds like AV to me.

   

   

  --Brian

   

  -----Original Message-----
  From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf 
Of Evan Mann
  Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 9:26 AM
  To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: [THIN] Re: MS Antivirus \ Spyware

   

  It's >NOT< an AntiVirus tool.  It's AntiSpyware, and it labelled so.  I

  just realized the subject from the original post said AntiVirus.  That

  isn't correct.

   

  There's a grey area between something being a virus or spyware, so while

  the MS AntiSpyware program may pick up some things that are picked up by

  software that does AV only (I mean strictly AV, with no additional

  spyware checks/removal like some of the newer version do), it doesn't

  make it an AntiVirus product.

   

   

  -----Original Message-----

  From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On

  Behalf Of Claus, Brian

  Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 9:12 AM

  To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

  Subject: [THIN] Re: MS Antivirus \ Spyware

   

  I don't think they intend this to replace commercial AV but as a

  "hotfix", if you will, against the top virus \ spyware threats out

  there.  We all know how many home users have no AV at all or they think

  their expired AV that came with their PC is good enough.  Then there's

  the "Spyware, what's that?" question...

   

  --Brian

   

  -----Original Message-----

  From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On

  Behalf Of Evan Mann

  Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 4:59 PM

  To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

  Subject: [THIN] Re: MS Antivirus \ Spyware

   

  I wouldn't see a need to run Spyware apps on my servers, so I had no

  reason to test it there.  I tested on my XP machine, and so did my other

  techs.  It found some things you wouldn't need it to, like VNC, and

  Dameware NT Utilities as potential threats, but the default action was

  Ignore . I choose to Always Ignore on those type of apps.

   

  Ideally an enterprise console would let you specify what to ignore ahead

  of time. Sunbelt's CounterSpy Enterprise, which is built on the same

  technology, has these features. 

   

  -----Original Message-----

  From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On

  Behalf Of Berdt van der Lingen

  Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 4:56 PM

  To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

  Subject: [THIN] Re: MS Antivirus \ Spyware

   

  On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 16:11:09 -0500, Evan Mann

  <emann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

  >  

  > I've downloaded this, installed it, ran it, and it's pretty

  impressive. 

  > Lots of functionality.  Hopefully MS puts out an enterprise deployment

   

  > console for this when it releases.

   

  Microsoft's (beta) anti-spyware program detects tapicfg.exe on Windows

  Server 2003 as CoolWebSearch spyware - impressive!

   

  --

  regards,

   

  Berdt

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