[THIN] Re: Hidedrives
- From: "Braebaum, Neil" <Neil.Braebaum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 16:54:59 +0100
Comments inline...
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: 04 September 2003 16:39
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Hidedrives
>
> Please correct me if I'm mistaken,
OK...
> but if I want to run a
> Kix script on a computer, don't I have to install KiXtart on
> that computer for it to run?
You're mistaken. ;-)
Kixtart (for Winnt platforms and later) is just a single executable -
you can copy it locally - it's just a file, or (bandwidth permitting)
just run it from NETLOGON.
> If so, I would say that VBScript
> has the benefit of being able to run natively on any
> Windows-based computer.
Which is a faulty conclusion, based on a faulty premise.
> No big deal for one computer, but
> more work if you write a domain login script that hundreds or
> thousands of domain computers will run.
Which I do.
And as I said previously - I use cmd kix and vbs login scripts.
My position is merely against a) blind advocacy b) technology choice out
of mere preference.
Moreover, using the correct technology for the correct things, and
seeing the pros / cons *correctly*.
> I always prefer to
> use tools that are native to the operating system when they
> will suffice.
Kixtart actually started off written by a Microsoft employee and freely
distributed with resource kits!!!
I prefer to use the most appropriate and suitable tool for the task -
and point out the attributes and suitabilities accurately - rather than
merely pandering to preferences.
I use all the scripting technologies being discussed, I'm merely
striving to point out where they are suited, and where they are not
suited.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Braebaum, Neil [mailto:Neil.Braebaum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 1:29 AM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Hidedrives
>
>
> Comments inline...
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Durbin, Jeff [mailto:jdurbin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: 03 September 2003 18:19
> > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [THIN] Re: Hidedrives
> >
> >
> > I don't want to start the whole 'VBScript vs. CMD file vs.
> Kix' debate
> > again, but I will just say that VBScript is way faster than using
> > IFMEMBER and REG.
>
> It may be - but no faster than the equivalent functions in
> Kix - and the same applies for both the group membership
> check, and the registry write, they are both one liners - not
> something you can say for vbscript.
>
> In this example, vbscript offers non of the advantages of
> Kix, and disadvantages of being more complex and tedious *for
> this sort of activity*.
>
> > I rewrote a customer's
> > 1700 line CMD login script in VBScript and it went from
> > minutes to seconds. I do agree that it's more complicated to
> > write VBScript, but the payoff for a little learning is tremendous.
>
> In this example, it's more complicate than it needs to be -
> that's all.
>
> The problem with some advocates, is advocacy for their choice
> for *everything*. WSH / ADSI / vbscript is very useful in a
> W2K / AD environment - no question - I write a lot of stuff myself.
>
> But for login type activity - especially if the individual is
> not current au fait with any particular scripting language -
> it's not optimum.
>
> It's all about using the most appropriate type of scripting
> for the type of activity you do.
>
> Most of my login scripts are Kix, followed by CMD, followed
> by vbscript
> - I use the appropriate choice of tool for the task, rather
> than trying to get a one-fits-all imposition.
>
> If somebody doesn't currently have experience of scripting,
> they are going to find ifmember and reg easier. If the
> performance is important, they'll get that from using Kix,
> and *still* have relative ease of use. If they are determined
> to use vbscript / WSH / ADSI, and use it at every turn, then
> they still have that choice - but it is not the best fit -
> merely a preference thing - it is unquestionably more complex
> to code this using WSH / vbscript / ADSI, than it is to write
> it in Kix - and for no benefit.
>
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