We seem to be trying to maneuver that camel, once again, through the eye of a needle. Dan comments that " with a steady stream of oil tankers chugging from Campeche up to the Texas City, there is a ready conduit for transportation of nonmigratory Mexican species to the Texas coast." No one disagrees with this observation, but does that mean that any bird from the tropics that is seen anywhere near the coast is automatically discounted? I have watched this discussion and the objections progress over the past decades. The first objection was identification. This has been largely resolved by digital photography. In other words, there is no doubt as to the identity of the birds in question. The second objection relates to the bird trade. Is the bird kept in captivity? Now we move on to the possibilities of the birds being ship assisted. Here is what we do know. The birds were, and are, here. We know nothing else. We have no idea about provenance, whether are not they were caged, or whether or not they hitched on a ship. What about the sungrebe in New Mexico? The bird is not traded or sold, was not remotely near a port, yet showed up at Bosque del Apache. How do we discount that bird except for it being ridiculously unlikely. Until we can definitely prove that these rarities are somehow the products of direct human intervention (capture), then I suggest that we go with the most plausible explanation. Birds have wings, can fly, and don't read the range maps. Ted Eubanks Austin, Texas