---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: *Graham Floyd* Date: Monday, September 23, 2013 Subject: [texbirds] Question on Egyptian Goose status To: "mljt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <mljt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> There are established rules for this that someone may send to you. However the true tipping point is politics. A lot of birders don't want to think about such species, and the final step according to the "rules" I mentioned above is that a states bird records committee meet to declare the species an addition to the state list. As a young birder, I see a certain hypocrisy in this process. New additions must have "stable" populations, whereas native threatened and endangered species in many instances do not have stable populations (i expect the northern subspecies of Spotted Owl will be extinct in my lifetime, not due to habitat loss directly, but indirectly due to the resultant spread of Barred Owl). This is a form of globalization, species compositions will change, get over it. 8 years ago I traveled far for a Eurasian Collared-Dove that had just entered Oregon; this week I am finding them all the way to the mouth of the Columbia River. Some birds naturally escape, or are released via human migration (a Rufous-collared Sparrow in Colorado, an Elaenia in Chicago could have arrived this way). All birds should be looked at, documented, and enjoyed. We can learn a lot, I for one would love to know the origin and sources of the Brownsville parrot flock. For common exotics in ebird my comments are "..."; if the editors don't want this valuable data that is their politics. Graham Floyd, San Antonio, TX > > > Edit your Freelists account settings for TEXBIRDS at //www.freelists.org/list/texbirds Reposting of traffic from TEXBIRDS is prohibited without seeking permission from the List Owner