[TechAssist] Re: Where in Canada to get woofers re-surrounded?
- From: "Leonard Caillouet" <lcaillo@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 14:58:39 -0500
Really? We have never had a problem with the hundreds we have done over the
years. The fact is that many, if not most, speaker rebuilders leave the
cone, coil, and spider intact when they get one that simply has bad foam.
It is a very easy process. The spider will center the coil in the gap if it
was installed right at the factory. All you have to do is center the
surround on the cone and let the glue set. Then push the cone down to the
limit of travel that the spider allows and run a bead of glue around the
edge of the surround which is lifted up slightly as it is pulled down inside
the basket. We use another old smaller driver to hold the cone down while
applying the glue. As you release the weight on the cone the surround will
settle into the glue, you tamp it down and check the travel, adjust the
position as needed and let the glue cure. Replace the gasket and test after
curing. Never had a complaint nor a failure and many of our clients are
very picky listeners.
You can also remove the dust cap and shim the coil. This has the
disadvantage of not being able to actively test the travel as the glue is
setting up. Not all spiders are perfectly installed and not all cones are
uniform. Sometimes the surround has to be tweaked to get good travel of the
voice coil in the gap.
$40 labor for about 45 minutes total work, $4.50 to 12.50 for the surround,
and $4.00 for materials. Just did two more. Thank you Infinity for using
foam instead of butyl rubber...
Leonard G. Caillouet
Electronics World
1261 NW 76 Blvd
Gainesville, FL 32606
352-332-5608
352-332-5668 FAX
----- Original Message -----
From: "becyn" <becyn@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 11:37 AM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Where in Canada to get woofers re-surrounded?
REFOAM? Speakers are RECONED, which includes the cone, vc, foam
and spider. Essentially, they rip everything out down to the frame and
replace
all the moving parts.
It would be nearly impossible to replace the foam only and get correct
balance or
alignment which is critical. Ever replace a horn driver "pot" diaphram?
It's not
as complex as a speaker, but still takes a bit to get it right.
You will have problems if someone just "refoams" them. Don't do it!!
Jim McVey
McVey Alltronix
327 Broadway
Newburgh N.Y. 12550
"If it doesn't play...
CALL MCVEY !!!!!!"
Factory authorized
service for over 20
major brands.
845 561 8383
(Last of the Mohegans)
Ed Gaidies wrote:
>What value does the customer have in the speakers?
>The speakers I did..(and I hesitated)..I priced the replacement price.
>Each speaker was $200 net plus shipping. 4X$200.
>When I se my mind to it...I needed some serious work on my
>Snowblower..Not time/labour was about $25 my cost.
>
>A word of warning...like anything else. Know your customer.
>If you do decide to have them re-foamed...if you have a customer
>contantly telling you..."They don't sound as "rich" as they used
>to"...stay away from doing it.
>
>Caveat Emptor.....Know thy Customer.
>
>Next time we talk on the Landline..remind me to tell you the story
>about this guy that want's to buy a Pioneer from the 70's.
> Good friend in the Old Days..but I think he's starting to loose it.
>BTW..Guys...sorry about this email...but Gary doesn't like Chat.
>But I believe it has a little value..Service wise.
>
>Email me privately Gary.Ramification of doing things we don't do in
>Electronics to survive.
>
>-Ed-
>Ed Gaidies
>Tel-Tek Electronics
>Ontario-Canada
>teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>teltek@xxxxxxxxx
>
>On 10-Feb-05, at 8:16 PM, Gary McCartney wrote:
>
>
>
>>Ed, I haven't seen the woofers so I don't know the size. Since $50.00
>>ea
>>must be a reasonable price, what should I be able to charge the
>>customer
>>to have these done?
>>
>>
>>Thanks to all the replies
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Gary McCartney
>>
>>McCartney Electronics
>>Guelph Ontario Canada
>>Est. 1984
>>email: gary (at) number63.ca
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Ed Gaidies wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Gary;
>>>What size and what shape. Send them up and I'll do them for $50 each
>>>CDN...you pay shipping both ways.
>>>I did some for a guy that fixes snowblowers...we made an good deal
>>>that
>>>served us both. He said they are working great. Prividing the Cone Web
>>>is good..(they self-center).,this is actually something you could do
>>>yourself. I made up a little jig that does 12" round speakers.
>>>
>>>
>>>-Ed-
>>>Ed Gaidies
>>>Tel-Tek Electronics
>>>Ontario-Canada
>>>teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>teltek@xxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>>On 10-Feb-05, at 2:23 PM, ray clarke wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hey Gary, I've got a place in the montreal region.
>>>>They charge about $125 each(could be a little more) If
>>>>your custumer is interested I'll send you the info.Not
>>>>at the shop right now. Ray Clarke Billette TV
>>>>--- Tel-Tek Electronics <teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Gary;
>>>>>I did 4X 12" Woofers about a Year ago. Got the Foam
>>>>>from Global. Not really
>>>>>that difficult.
>>>>>
>>>>>-Ed-
>>>>>Ed Gaidies
>>>>>Tel-Tek Electronics
>>>>>Ontario-Canada
>>>>>
>>>>>teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>teltek@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "Gary McCartney" <gary@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 11:51 AM
>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Where in Canada to get woofers
>>>>>re-surrounded?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I have a customer who has a pair of "Ohm" brand
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>speakers and the foam
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>woofer surrounds have disintegrated. Does anyone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>have a place to send
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>them to to have this done? I tried once and failed
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>so thats not an
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>option for me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks for any help.
>>>>>>--
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Gary McCartney
>>>>>>
>>>>>>McCartney Electronics
>>>>>>Guelph Ontario Canada
>>>>>>Est. 1984
>>>>>>email: gary (at) number63.ca
>>>>>>
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>>>>Billette TV Howick, Que
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