Joe Given your reply I hope you are willing to share this spreadsheet. If so, please send me a copy. It would be interesting how we compare to the spread sheet. Please send to moutons@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Jason Mouton Mouton's Electronics ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Batchelor" <jbc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 6:44 PM Subject: [TechAssist] Re: What do you charge? > > A customer is the one that gives you money. A person on the phone is not > a customer until he gives you money. > > Most shops at this time do not charge for public relations. It may come to > that with a 900 number, but not yet. > > Often a technician, owner, does not count his time as an expense. > He ends up working 18 hours a day to make the pay of 8 hours. > > It is extremely difficult to troubleshoot a set and answer the phone. > > Several years ago I worked up a spread sheet program to calculate the > cost of doing business. It added up all expenses and divided it by the > number of sets you can fix in a day. It would give the cost per set. > You could change the number of sets, change the number of technicians, > add a secretary etc and find out how much each sets costs. > > Joe Batchelor CET TX 80 > > 11/4/02 3:39:38 PM, "Mouton's Electronics" <moutons@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > >The customer pays for you to answer the phone??? Which one, the customer on > >your bench or the customer on the phone? If the customer on the phone pays > >for info, what do you do to collect? > > > >This is an interesting topic since I spend a large portion of the day > >interupting my work to answer questions over the phone. Usually for people > >who never bought anything from us in the first place. I have often wished we > >had a 900 number for phone down time. > > > >Jason > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Joe Batchelor" <jbc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 10:23 AM > >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: What do you charge? > > > > > >> > >> I do not answer the phone for free. > >> > >> The customer has to pay for my answering the phone. > >> > >> If you have a store front with rent, lights, insurance, phones, etc > >> the cost to open the door each day is about $800. This will vary > >> with location and size of the shop, but is a good reference. > >> > >> If you work out of your bedroom, with the wife paying the rent, lights etc > >> then the cost is much less. > >> > >> Often a good technician goes into business thinking he will get rich, > >> without knowing how to calculate the cost of doing business. > >> > >> Be sure you can calculate the cost of doing business before trying to > >> run your own shop. > >> > >> > >> Joe Batchelor CET TX 80 > >> > >> 11/4/02 9:37:28 AM, "Phillip R. Hull" <phil245@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> > > >> >Your charging the custormer for answering your phone?? > >> >Phillip R Hull > >> >phil245@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> >----- Original Message ----- > >> >From: "Phil Bader" <philbad@xxxxxxxxxx> > >> >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> >Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 9:32 AM > >> >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: What do you charge? > >> > > >> > > >> >> > >> >> That's $125.00/ hr.Many of us have fixed a 27" TV in about an hour and > >> >> gave an estimate of about 125.00. > >> >> There are "holes in the bucket" as well taking away from pure chargable > >> >> tech time(phones ringing,etc).I bet the final tally is about 75.00/hr > >> >> really. > >> >> Phil Bader > >> >> > >> >> Hermantvr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> > $1000.00 for 8 hours...WOW!!!!! > >> >> > Tommy Herman > >> >> > Herman TV > >> >> > > >> >> > In a message dated 11/04/2002 5:49:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, > >> >> > geminitv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: > >> >> > > >> >> > Depends how long it takes. I usually have to figure about $1000.00 > >labor > >> >for > >> >> > a full 8 hour day so if it takes 4 hours, I have to estimate it for > >> >$500. If > >> >> > they decline it, there's plenty of other work to do where I can make > >it. > >> >> > > >> >> > Bob Waterman, CET® #RI-28 > >> >> > Master Technician License #9109 > >> >> > Service Manager > >> >> > Gemini Computer, TV, & Security Alarms > >> >> > (508)695-7302 > >> >> > (508)695-7769 FAX > >> >> > geminitv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> >> > geminitv@xxxxxxx > >> >> > > >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> >> > From: "Lyles Tv" <tech@xxxxxxxxxxx> > >> >> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> >> > Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 4:28 PM > >> >> > Subject: [TechAssist] What do you charge? > >> >> > > >> >> > > To replace the heat transfer fluid in the mag projos?? > >> >> > > Jeff Farnsworth > >> >> > > Lyles TV and Appliance > >> >> > > 17 S Washington St > >> >> > > Elkhorn, Wi. 53121 > >> >> > > ph 262-723-3477 > >> >> > > fax 262-723-3658 > >> >> > > tech@xxxxxxxxxxx > >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> > Tommy Herman > >> >> > Herman TV > >> >> > 250 School Ave SW > >> >> > Taylorsville N.C. 28681 > >> >> > 828-632-5322 Voice > >> >> > 828-632-3880 Fax > >> >> > hermantvr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> >> > > >> >> > ------------------------------------------ > >> >> > To REMOVE your email address, click here: > >> >> > http://www.tech-assist.org/unsubb.html > >> >> > To CHANGE your email address, click here: > >> >> > http://www.techassist.net/forms/change.html > >> >> > ------------------------------------------ > >> >> > ***NEW*** Tips Added Instantly!!!*** > >> >> > Submit Repair Tips here: > >> >> > http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/ > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> Philip Bader > >> >> Jan Phyl TV Inc. 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