Yes, charges... They see you troubleshoot an hour then see a board go in, refuse the estimate, and later tell some jerk "It's that board there!" never allowing you for the time it took to FIND that board as bad. You are on their turf, not yours.You have zero rights or recourse. In the shop, you have their set.This keeps it legal! Philip Bader Jan Phyl TV Inc. (estab. 1976) 3420 Recker Hwy. Winter Haven, Fl. 33880 Fax (863) 299-8821 email: tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx personal/ alt. email: pbader@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx see our ad at: http://jan-phyl-television-pc-monitor-service.9601288257006.worldpages-ads.com/ Al L wrote: >Perry, > How long have you been repairing in the home? I am interested in doing >more in the house,but I endorse the policy of pulling the set unless I am >sure.How do the customers react to the charges,or do you only do warranty >work in the home.? > >Al Leatherman >224 RT. 46 >Mine Hill, NJ 07803 >973-361-5796 >WWW.ALS-TV.NET > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Electric Medic" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 12:40 AM >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Toshiba 34HD82 Odd symptoms.. > > > > >>I agree Phil: Not only is the pressure intense with the customer looking at >>you the whole time, these newer sets without the learning curve learned >>always seem to make you look bad. I am very confident with sets that I >>have >>worked on before and can even joke with the customer while repairing them, >>I >>usually even know the bad parts and bring them with me. New sets and 1st >>timers always get pulled if the fuse and basic checks are good. I found >>out >>the hard way learning a convergence procedure in front of a customer is >>embarrassing. I get that bad boy in the shop where I can learn in private. >> >>Perry Bower >>Electric Medic >>"It's Cheaper to Keep Her" >>http://www.electricmedic.com >>3850 Washington Road Suite 4C >>Martinez, Georgia 30907 >>Phone: 706-8MEDIC4 (863-3424) >>Phone: 706-863-3474 >>Fax: 706-863-2316 >>mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of >>tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 12:07 AM >>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Toshiba 34HD82 Odd symptoms.. >> >> >>You mean you are actually going back and try troubleshooting this in >>his home???After the first quick checks, it would be on the way to my >>shop. These are a challange under perfect conditions!I never could >>concieve how techs actually duplicate their well equipped, well lit >>bench behind a TV in dim living room on the floor.You sir are a >>better man than I.Please let me know how you do. >>Phil >> >> >>Phil Bader, Pres. >>Jan Phyl TV Inc >>Winter Haven, Fl >>(863) 299-8821 >>estab. 1976 >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: Valley TV <valleytv@xxxxxxxxx> >>Date: Saturday, July 16, 2005 8:20 pm >>Subject: [TechAssist] Toshiba 34HD82 Odd symptoms.. >> >> >> >>>Yikes! >>>Great way to end my Saturday night calls with a heavy monster HDTV >>>set!Toshiba 34HD82 (chassis TAC0241) has odd problem. Raster but >>>no audio/vide= >>>o on any of the inputs. >>>Odd part- SNOW (RF) appears intermittently when you select Video >>>1,2 or HD = >>>input!=20=20 >>>Customer is certain (yeah, right!) that set was NOT hit by >>>lightning and I = >>>did not find any burn marks but with no schematic and very tired >>>eyes, arms= >>>, and legs after a very bad week I just wanted to get out of the >>>house @8pm. >>>I told customer that I would return on Monday but realized on the >>>way back = >>>home that I had no idea what it could be. >>> >>>Any thoughts on this??/ ALL appreciated!!!!!!! Anyone also have >>>the schem= >>>atic to upload? >>> >>>Thanks in advance!!! >>> >>>Gary >>>Valley TV >>>Drums, Pa office=20=20 >>> >>>--=20 >>>___________________________________________________________ >>>Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com >>>http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm >>> >>>------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>---------- >>>This Email List is Public. 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