Thanks Gonzalo. I gave the customer an estimate of aprox. $160. If he approves it I'll try your suggestions. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gonzalo Arrivas" <gna2000@xxxxxxx> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 3:19 PM Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA CTC177BE tuning problem > > Dave, > > Here's a tuner troubleshooting you can follow: > > TROUBLESHOOTING THE TUNER > IN THE CTC 175-187 CHASSIS > > Step 1 Check the voltage at U7401-10 (5VDC) > This will verify B+ and establish a good ground. > > Step 2 Monitor the voltage at Q7401-C Tuner Control > If the voltage is changing when you change channels this would > indicate U7401 is working. > > Step 3 Check the voltage at U7501-4 Quad Op Amp > This is the 33 volt used for channel tuning. > > Step 4 Monitor the voltage at Q7402-c Band Switch Transistor > You should have a negative DC voltage for band 1 (-11 to -14 VDC) > You should have a positive DC voltage for band 2 (+11 VDC) > This will switch positive or negative as you change bands. > > Step 5 Monitor the voltage at U7401-9 Mixer/OSC > This is the band switch used at U7301-7. 3 VDC activates the VHF OSC at > pin 11. When UHF is selected, U7301-7 should go to 0 VDC. The UHF OSC at > U7301-14 should be running. When OSC isn't running the voltage is about > 10 to 11 VDC and when the OSC is running the voltage will measure about > 4.5 to 5 VCD. Another good thing to know is that if U7301-1 is low > (less than 5 VDC) the chip is probably bad and the tuner alignment won't > respond because the RF AGC will remain high. > > Step 6 The voltage at U7401-9 is also used for RF Band Switch > Q7403 and Q7404 collectors are connected together and the state of the > common > collectors determines the VHF/UHF RF switching. When the voltage at > U7401-9 > is high (7 VDC), Q7403 turns on. Its collector is 0 VDC and the VHF RF amp > Q7102 is turned on by lowering the source voltage to about 4.5 to 5 VDC. > When U7401-9 is low (0 VDC), Q7404 turns on. The collector is high (11 > VDC). > Q7102-S will go high turning the UHF RF amp off. At the same time > Q7101-D (UHF RF amp) goes high and the UHF RF amp is turned on. An > overview > would be when a VHF band is selected, U7401-9 is 7 VDC. You should have 3 > VDC > at U7301-7. The VHF Mixer/OSC will be running and the voltage at U7301-11 > will > be about 4.5 to 5 VDC. Q7403 will be in saturation and the collector is at > 0 VDC. When U7401-9 is 0 VDC, U7301-7 is 0 VDC and the UHF Mixer/OSC is > selected. U7401-14 will now measure about 4.5 to 5 VDC. Q7404 will turn > on, > collector is high and the UHF RF amp is selected. > > Step 7 Q7401 off U7401-14 is the Tuning PLL Transistor > Its collector is used to control the 33 VDC for tuning. This voltage is > used > at U7301-3 as a tuning reference for the QUAD OP AMP. The digital > information > stored in the eeprom comes into U7501 pins 5,10 and 12. This information > is > converted to an analog value at pins 7,8 and 14 and used to tune the > varactor > diodes to band pass the selected channel frequency. You can use a DVM to > measure > the voltage at U7501 pin 3. This is the tuning reference. Selecting > channel > 2, you should have about 1.35 VDC on pin 3 and about 1 VDC at pins 7,8 and > 14. > Selecting channel 13, the voltage at pin 3 is about 2.01 VDC. Pins 7,8 and > 14 > about 6 VDC. Now you should go to the varactor diodes and measure > approximately > the same voltage at their cathodes. (Keep in mind that these voltages will > change > as you chage channels). When in the air mode, you may use the chart at the > bottom > page 49 in the CTC 175/176/177 training manual for reference. When in the > cable > mode, use the chart on page 51. > > VARACTOR DIODES are designed such that their capacitance is dependent on > the voltage > across the diode. As the tuning voltage varies across the diode, a > varactor acts > like a variable capacitor causing the tuned circuit to vary its frequency. > Different > channels are tuned in this manner. (Note: Varactor diodes work with > reverse bias). > > Thanks to Bob Rose for providing the above information... > > >From: "Dave Huston" <DaveHuston@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > >Reply-To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >Subject: [TechAssist] RCA CTC177BE tuning problem > >Date: Tue, 9 Jan 1996 07:47:11 -0500 > > > > > >This one tunes channels 2-13 fine. UHF channels won't change. I get the > >same > >channel no matter what the OSD says. Did standard RCA tuner resolder to no > >avail. Has anyone seen this before? > >Dave > > > >------------------------------------------ > >Help make your TechAssist database better! > >Submit your fixes here: http://circuitwork.com/techassist/tip/#tips > >------------------------------------------ > >To UNSUBSCRIBE your email address, click here: > >mailto:techassist-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe > >Or send a BLANK email with unsubscribe in the > >SUBJECT field to the address above. > > > > > > > G.N.Arrivas, CET, Pittsburg. 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