[TechAssist] Re: RCA CTC177BE tuning problem

  • From: "Gonzalo Arrivas" <gna2000@xxxxxxx>
  • To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2002 20:19:37 +0000

Dave,

Here's a tuner troubleshooting you can follow:

                                TROUBLESHOOTING THE TUNER
                                IN THE CTC 175-187 CHASSIS

Step 1  Check the voltage at U7401-10 (5VDC)
        This will verify B+ and establish a good ground.

Step 2  Monitor the voltage at Q7401-C  Tuner Control
        If the voltage is changing when you change channels this would
        indicate U7401 is working.

Step 3  Check the voltage at U7501-4    Quad Op Amp
        This is the 33 volt used for channel tuning.

Step 4  Monitor the voltage at Q7402-c   Band Switch Transistor
        You should have a negative DC voltage for band 1 (-11 to -14 VDC)
        You should have a positive DC voltage for band 2 (+11 VDC)
        This will switch positive or negative as you change bands.

Step 5  Monitor the voltage at U7401-9   Mixer/OSC
        This is the band switch used at U7301-7.  3 VDC activates the VHF OSC at
        pin 11. When UHF is selected, U7301-7 should go to 0 VDC.  The UHF OSC 
at
        U7301-14 should be running.  When OSC isn't running the voltage is about
        10 to 11 VDC and when the OSC is running the voltage will measure about
        4.5 to 5 VCD. Another good thing to know is that if U7301-1 is low
        (less than 5 VDC) the chip is probably bad and the tuner alignment won't
        respond because the RF AGC will remain high.

Step 6  The voltage at U7401-9 is also used for RF Band Switch
        Q7403 and Q7404 collectors are connected together and the state of the 
common
        collectors determines the VHF/UHF RF switching.  When the voltage at 
U7401-9
        is high (7 VDC), Q7403 turns on.  Its collector is 0 VDC and the VHF RF 
amp
        Q7102 is turned on by lowering the source voltage to about 4.5 to 5 VDC.
        When U7401-9 is low (0 VDC), Q7404 turns on.  The collector is high (11 
VDC).
        Q7102-S will go high turning the UHF RF amp off.  At the same time
        Q7101-D (UHF RF amp) goes high and the UHF RF amp is turned on.  An 
overview
        would be when a VHF band is selected, U7401-9 is 7 VDC.  You should 
have 3 
VDC
        at U7301-7.  The VHF Mixer/OSC will be running and the voltage at 
U7301-11 
will
        be about 4.5 to 5 VDC.  Q7403 will be in saturation and the collector 
is at
        0 VDC.  When U7401-9 is 0 VDC, U7301-7 is 0 VDC and the UHF Mixer/OSC is
        selected.  U7401-14 will now measure about 4.5 to 5 VDC.  Q7404 will 
turn 
on,
        collector is high and the UHF RF amp is selected.

Step 7  Q7401 off U7401-14 is the Tuning PLL Transistor
        Its collector is used to control the 33 VDC for tuning.  This voltage 
is 
used
        at U7301-3 as a tuning reference for the QUAD OP AMP.  The digital 
information
        stored in the eeprom comes into U7501 pins 5,10 and 12.  This 
information 
is
        converted to an analog value at pins 7,8 and 14 and used to tune the 
varactor
        diodes to band pass the selected channel frequency.  You can use a DVM 
to 
measure
        the voltage at U7501 pin 3.  This is the tuning reference.  Selecting 
channel
        2, you should have about 1.35 VDC on pin 3 and about 1 VDC at pins 7,8 
and 
14.
        Selecting channel 13, the voltage at pin 3 is about 2.01 VDC.  Pins 7,8 
and 
14
        about 6 VDC.  Now you should go to the varactor diodes and measure 
approximately
        the same voltage at their cathodes.  (Keep in mind that these voltages 
will 
change
        as you chage channels).  When in the air mode, you may use the chart at 
the 
bottom
        page 49 in the CTC 175/176/177 training manual for reference.  When in 
the 
cable
        mode, use the chart on page 51.

        VARACTOR DIODES are designed such that their capacitance is dependent 
on 
the voltage
        across the diode.  As the tuning voltage varies across the diode, a 
varactor acts
        like a variable capacitor causing the tuned circuit to vary its 
frequency.  
Different
        channels are tuned in this manner.  (Note:  Varactor diodes work with 
reverse bias).

        Thanks to Bob Rose for providing the above information...

>From: "Dave Huston" <DaveHuston@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [TechAssist] RCA CTC177BE tuning problem
>Date: Tue, 9 Jan 1996 07:47:11 -0500
>
>
>This one tunes channels 2-13 fine. UHF channels won't change. I get the 
>same
>channel no matter what the OSD says. Did standard RCA tuner resolder to no
>avail. Has anyone seen this before?
>Dave
>
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