[TechAssist] Re: Opinion Poll DON'T DELETE, MORE IMPORTANT THAN A REPAIR TIP!!!!

  • From: becyn <becyn@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2005 12:22:49 -0500

Al,
NESDA ain't gonna do nothin' for you.
The inner circle does what it does. If it happens to
be good for you too, so be it, if not...too bad.

Do you have any knowlege of ANYONE in elected office
"going to bat" for you?  If so, does he keep yopu informed about
the status of things?

Jim McVey
McVey Alltronix   
327 Broadway
Newburgh N.Y. 12550

"If it doesn't play...
CALL MCVEY !!!!!!"
Factory authorized
service for over 20
major brands.
845 561 8383
(Last of the Mohegans)

Al L wrote:

>Somebody has to pay truck insurance,liability insurance,and truck 
>cost,advertising,dispatch,etc. If the tech doesn't make money,and he/she 
>won't under those conditions,it fails. Also the manufacturers don't want 
>just one company,they would have to be nuts.We can always beat their prices 
>and service,but we need access to parts and literature,which the 
>manufacturers control,which is why I want NESDA to make nice!
>
>Al Leatherman
>224 RT. 46
>Mine Hill, NJ 07803
>973-361-5796
>WWW.ALS-TV.NET
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "al m" <ampm@xxxxxxx>
>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 11:10 PM
>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Opinion Poll DON'T DELETE, MORE IMPORTANT THAN A 
>REPAIR TIP!!!!
>
>
>  
>
>>Can't see how they can charge less than I am.
>>Al Marquardt
>>ampm@xxxxxxx
>>Al Marquardt Electronic Repair
>>206 W Main
>>Girardville Pa. 17935
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: "Electric Medic" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 10:53 PM
>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Opinion Poll DON'T DELETE, MORE IMPORTANT THAN A
>>REPAIR TIP!!!!
>>
>>
>>    
>>
>>>I understand this to be much different than Wards or Sears. They had huge
>>>storefronts in all cities, with lights and all. Lots of overhead. I am 
>>>not
>>>saying this to be afraid of competition, I competed with wards and Sears,
>>>and fixed many behind them. This is a little different, they are getting 
>>>a
>>>big advantage here and lots of help from our peers. This new Service
>>>Company
>>>will have none of that overhead. Just the technicians salary and Van. 
>>>They
>>>will be able to charge dirt cheap prices with a much better chance of
>>>taking
>>>some or lots of our business. The nearest storefronts will be some
>>>Corporate
>>>Headquarters' somewhere where the Techs will have training and business
>>>meetings. They can put all their money in BIG HUGE Yellow Page ads. If we
>>>think Wards and Sears had some business, this will make them look like
>>>Hobo's. And to top it all off they will start with the manufacturers, and
>>>Service Organizations backing. It is like opening a McDonalds restaurant,
>>>instant business. You know whom the Manufacturers will recommend when
>>>customers call them, it won't be us. That's fine, make light of it, that
>>>is
>>>what the poor hardware store owners said of Wal-Mart, and the Computer
>>>software guru's said of Microsoft. The rest is History.
>>>
>>>Perry Bower
>>>Electric Medic
>>>"It's Cheaper to Keep Her"
>>>http://www.electricmedic.com
>>>3850 Washington Road  Suite 4C
>>>Martinez, Georgia 30907
>>>Phone: 706-8MEDIC4  (863-3424)
>>>Phone: 706-863-3474
>>>Fax: 706-863-2316
>>>mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Larry E
>>>Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 10:36 PM
>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Opinion Poll DON'T DELETE, MORE IMPORTANT THAN
>>>A REPAIR TIP!!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>I`ve watched this post from the beginning and wasn`t going to reply to it
>>>but I`m going to throw my 2 cents in anyway. Montgomery Wards & Sears
>>>have been doing this for over 40 years (yes I know wards is gone), it`s
>>>nothing
>>>new, hell NAP had factory service for years all over the place, did we 
>>>all
>>>lose our jobs? NO we didn`t, UPS has been doing it for quite awhile now,
>>>if your afraid of the competition then you shouldn`t be self employed,
>>>there are fewer of us than ever before, and even if they do find enough
>>>qualified help (which I doubt) they will just be another sears/wards
>>>service
>>>center, high priced service calls, labor & parts markup, I worked for
>>>wards
>>>for 8 years up north and they were the biggest crooks on the planet, did
>>>they have work? Yes they did, lots of it, when I quit and went back to
>>>work
>>>for myself did I have work? Well here I am 10 years later still making a
>>>decent living, STOP worrying about your competition and concentrate on
>>>your
>>>business and what has kept you in business, charging a fair price and
>>>treating your customer as you would like to be treated and you`ll be in
>>>business until your 80, that`s my opinion, Larry E
>>>
>>>Larry Eastman
>>>American TV & Electronics
>>>Crystal River, Fl. 34428
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Electric Medic" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 8:36 PM
>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Opinion Poll DON'T DELETE, MORE IMPORTANT THAN 
>>>A
>>>REPAIR TIP!!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Dave, Are you kidding? You mean to tell me a guy living next door to you
>>>>stealing your business is not worth discussing. That is what they are
>>>>counting on, GREAT!!!!!!!This is a discussion you should and we all
>>>>should
>>>>be interested in. This potentially could end the need for our services 
>>>>or
>>>>some of us, (One Shop Lost Is Too Many) if it takes off. I am not 
>>>>talking
>>>>about some TPA, I am talking about the Big National Service Repair 
>>>>Fleets
>>>>that the Manufacturers and secretly Organizations are supporting and 
>>>>will
>>>>have more control over. They will be in nice, caged, fully equipped Vans
>>>>with all the latest test equipment and boards, parts maybe living right
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>next
>>>      
>>>
>>>>door to us. They will have new leased vans (thousands of them) Radio
>>>>Dispatched, getting new ones every couple of years, all painted the same
>>>>colors. Sort of like the old Sears vans in the 40's, 50's, and 60's.
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>Except
>>>      
>>>
>>>>this time they are not selling anything but service. Stealing from us.
>>>>You
>>>>don't think customers will use them, with their nice uniforms and nice
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>vans,
>>>      
>>>
>>>>cheaper rates than us. Also, they are not going to be strangers, they
>>>>will
>>>>be us, except we will no longer have a business, and we will be saying
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>"Yes
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Sir" to all sorts of Managers. They will not have the overhead of a 
>>>>shop,
>>>>they will be living at their homes, with travel expenses, all profits to
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>the
>>>      
>>>
>>>>company, that is why they will pay so good. It will work, they will be
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>able
>>>      
>>>
>>>>to repair much cheaper than us, Nationwide. Maybe if we all talked about
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>it
>>>      
>>>
>>>>we might have a chance to stop it or not help it by going to work for
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>them.
>>>      
>>>
>>>>They need our experience so they make it look attractive until they 
>>>>train
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>up
>>>      
>>>
>>>>all the young whippersnappers to take your job.
>>>>
>>>>Perry Bower
>>>>Electric Medic
>>>>"It's Cheaper to Keep Her"
>>>>http://www.electricmedic.com
>>>>3850 Washington Road  Suite 4C
>>>>Martinez, Georgia 30907
>>>>Phone: 706-8MEDIC4  (863-3424)
>>>>Phone: 706-863-3474
>>>>Fax: 706-863-2316
>>>>mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Dave Huston
>>>>Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 6:21 PM
>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Opinion Poll (off topic but still concerns
>>>>electronics)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Enough already..... can you folks take this discussion somewhere else?
>>>>I don't mean to be brash but I'm getting tired of deleting all these
>>>>messages.
>>>>
>>>>Dave Huston
>>>>Huston TV & Electronics
>>>>2846 Marion-Cardington Rd.E.
>>>>Marion,Oh 43302-8919
>>>>Phone/Fax: 740-389-5726
>>>>email: HustonTV@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "J Silverman" <greentron@xxxxxxx>
>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 3:27 PM
>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Opinion Poll (off topic but still concerns
>>>>electronics)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Hey! Dont call me crazy! I just hadnt had a cup of coffee yet that day.
>>>>Jerry Silverman
>>>>Greentron Inc
>>>>4 Newland Ave
>>>>Greenville SC 29609
>>>>Fax/Phone 864 232 3889
>>>>mail to: greentron@xxxxxxx
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Al L" <alleathe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 3:01 PM
>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Opinion Poll (off topic but still concerns
>>>>electronics)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>I can's afford all that stuff Dougie! Why do you think I was driving 
>>>>>an
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>old
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>Police Car?Speaking of the Crown Vic,Red with rubber grommet hole in
>>>>>roof,remember that crazy hillbilly truck driver on the interstate that
>>>>>thought I was a police car,jerked over into the right lane,and got
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>pissed
>>>      
>>>
>>>>of
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>when i passed him? Crazy guy chased me about ten miles at speeds of up
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>to
>>>      
>>>
>>>>>ninety,lost the sucker on the hills and bends that are W. Va.  al
>>>>>
>>>>>Al Leatherman
>>>>>224 RT. 46
>>>>>Mine Hill, NJ 07803
>>>>>973-361-5796
>>>>>WWW.ALS-TV.NET
>>>>>
>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "Doug Keller" <dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 2:25 PM
>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Opinion Poll (off topic but still concerns
>>>>>electronics)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>AL L. bought himself a white cane, pair of sunglasses, a tin cup, 
>>>>>>and
>>>>>>some pencils as his retirement plan.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Doug Keller
>>>>>>Wis-Kel Electronics
>>>>>>101 Freeland Ave.
>>>>>>Terra Alta, WV
>>>>>>USA        26764
>>>>>>dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>http://www.tech-assist.org
>>>>>>"Learn from the mistakes of others, because you
>>>>>>won't live long enough to make them all yourself"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>John @ Myers TV wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Al,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Yep, I know who you're talking about. I can't argue with your point,
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>we
>>>      
>>>
>>>>>>>all
>>>>>>>know that the day of get a job, and stay till retirement is long
>>>>>>>gone.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>But, The best way to hone the interview skills is to actually go on
>>>>>>>interviews. Won't hurt to talk to them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I'm due to graduate next spring, and shift into interview mode,
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>anyhow.
>>>      
>>>
>>>>>>>I'd
>>>>>>>like to retire someday, and enjoy life, but I don't see that
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>happening,
>>>      
>>>
>>>>on
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>>an independent TV Guy salary.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>John Myers
>>>>>>>Myers TV Service Company
>>>>>>>376 E. State St.
>>>>>>>Alliance, OH 44601
>>>>>>>Phone (Voice & Fax) (330) 821-6545
>>>>>>>myers_tv_b@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>www.myerstv.net
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>From: "Al L" <alleathe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 1:54 PM
>>>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Opinion Poll (off topic but still concerns
>>>>>>>electronics)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Anybody that bites should know,as soon as they don't need you,they
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>fire
>>>      
>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>and you are up the creek.Anybody think that job will last?I suggest
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>keeping
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>the business open part time,for protection. I know a guy in New
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>England
>>>      
>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>had
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>a great job for a while,then they closed up,and he was back in his
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>own
>>>      
>>>
>>>>>>>>business,good while it lasted.
>>>>>>>>  For that kind of money,soon as its unprofitable,bye bye.Since
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>there
>>>      
>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>will
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>never be one shop nationwide,and people pay less and less, and sets
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>cost
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>>>less and less,BE CAREFUL! and good luck
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Al Leatherman
>>>>>>>>224 RT. 46
>>>>>>>>Mine Hill, NJ 07803
>>>>>>>>973-361-5796
>>>>>>>>WWW.ALS-TV.NET
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>From: "John @ Myers TV" <myers_tv_b@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 1:28 PM
>>>>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Opinion Poll (off topic but still 
>>>>>>>>concerns
>>>>>>>>electronics)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On the other hand, what the heck.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I'll let you know.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>John Myers
>>>>>>>>>Myers TV Service Company
>>>>>>>>>376 E. State St.
>>>>>>>>>Alliance, OH 44601
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>phone: (voice & Fax) 330-821-6545
>>>>>>>>>myers_tv_b@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>www.myerstv.net
>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>From: "Doug Keller" <dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 12:33 PM
>>>>>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Opinion Poll (off topic but still concerns
>>>>>>>>>electronics)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Do you think this is a bunch of hot air or what?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                    
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>http://jobsearch.monster.com/getjob.asp?JobID=26581517&AVSDM=2005%2D02%2D1
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>1+
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Doug Keller
>>>>>>>>>>Wis-Kel Electronics
>>>>>>>>>>101 Freeland Ave.
>>>>>>>>>>Terra Alta, WV
>>>>>>>>>>USA        26764
>>>>>>>>>>dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>http://www.tech-assist.org
>>>>>>>>>>"Learn from the mistakes of others, because you
>>>>>>>>>>won't live long enough to make them all yourself"
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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