[TechAssist] Re: Opinion Poll DON'T DELETE, MORE IMPORTANT THAN A REPAIR TIP!!!!

  • From: "J Silverman" <greentron@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2005 14:00:51 -0500

Sams DID fold a couple of years ago and has emerged under new ownership, and
the parts distributors ARE folding, one after another. Sometimes the
remaining customer base is purchased by a surviving distributor like Herman
or Fox.
Jerry Silverman
Greentron Inc
4 Newland Ave
Greenville SC 29609
Fax/Phone 864 232 3889
mail to: greentron@xxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: "al m" <ampm@xxxxxxx>
To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 8:46 AM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Opinion Poll DON'T DELETE, MORE IMPORTANT THAN A
REPAIR TIP!!!!


> Yep we need access. But if this happens Sams goes down plus all the
> electronic parts places are down too.
> Al Marquardt
> ampm@xxxxxxx
> Al Marquardt Electronic Repair
> 206 W Main
> Girardville Pa. 17935
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Al L" <alleathe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 8:37 AM
> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Opinion Poll DON'T DELETE, MORE IMPORTANT THAN A
> REPAIR TIP!!!!
>
>
> > Somebody has to pay truck insurance,liability insurance,and truck
> > cost,advertising,dispatch,etc. If the tech doesn't make money,and he/she
> > won't under those conditions,it fails. Also the manufacturers don't want
> > just one company,they would have to be nuts.We can always beat their
> > prices
> > and service,but we need access to parts and literature,which the
> > manufacturers control,which is why I want NESDA to make nice!
> >
> > Al Leatherman
> > 224 RT. 46
> > Mine Hill, NJ 07803
> > 973-361-5796
> > WWW.ALS-TV.NET
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "al m" <ampm@xxxxxxx>
> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 11:10 PM
> > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Opinion Poll DON'T DELETE, MORE IMPORTANT THAN
A
> > REPAIR TIP!!!!
> >
> >
> >> Can't see how they can charge less than I am.
> >> Al Marquardt
> >> ampm@xxxxxxx
> >> Al Marquardt Electronic Repair
> >> 206 W Main
> >> Girardville Pa. 17935
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Electric Medic" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 10:53 PM
> >> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Opinion Poll DON'T DELETE, MORE IMPORTANT
THAN
> >> A
> >> REPAIR TIP!!!!
> >>
> >>
> >>>I understand this to be much different than Wards or Sears. They had
huge
> >>> storefronts in all cities, with lights and all. Lots of overhead. I am
> >>> not
> >>> saying this to be afraid of competition, I competed with wards and
> >>> Sears,
> >>> and fixed many behind them. This is a little different, they are
getting
> >>> a
> >>> big advantage here and lots of help from our peers. This new Service
> >>> Company
> >>> will have none of that overhead. Just the technicians salary and Van.
> >>> They
> >>> will be able to charge dirt cheap prices with a much better chance of
> >>> taking
> >>> some or lots of our business. The nearest storefronts will be some
> >>> Corporate
> >>> Headquarters' somewhere where the Techs will have training and
business
> >>> meetings. They can put all their money in BIG HUGE Yellow Page ads. If
> >>> we
> >>> think Wards and Sears had some business, this will make them look like
> >>> Hobo's. And to top it all off they will start with the manufacturers,
> >>> and
> >>> Service Organizations backing. It is like opening a McDonalds
> >>> restaurant,
> >>> instant business. You know whom the Manufacturers will recommend when
> >>> customers call them, it won't be us. That's fine, make light of it,
that
> >>> is
> >>> what the poor hardware store owners said of Wal-Mart, and the Computer
> >>> software guru's said of Microsoft. The rest is History.
> >>>
> >>> Perry Bower
> >>> Electric Medic
> >>> "It's Cheaper to Keep Her"
> >>> http://www.electricmedic.com
> >>> 3850 Washington Road  Suite 4C
> >>> Martinez, Georgia 30907
> >>> Phone: 706-8MEDIC4  (863-3424)
> >>> Phone: 706-863-3474
> >>> Fax: 706-863-2316
> >>> mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Larry E
> >>> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 10:36 PM
> >>> To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Opinion Poll DON'T DELETE, MORE IMPORTANT
THAN
> >>> A REPAIR TIP!!!!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I`ve watched this post from the beginning and wasn`t going to reply to
> >>> it
> >>> but I`m going to throw my 2 cents in anyway. Montgomery Wards & Sears
> >>> have been doing this for over 40 years (yes I know wards is gone),
it`s
> >>> nothing
> >>> new, hell NAP had factory service for years all over the place, did we
> >>> all
> >>> lose our jobs? NO we didn`t, UPS has been doing it for quite awhile
now,
> >>> if your afraid of the competition then you shouldn`t be self employed,
> >>> there are fewer of us than ever before, and even if they do find
enough
> >>> qualified help (which I doubt) they will just be another sears/wards
> >>> service
> >>> center, high priced service calls, labor & parts markup, I worked for
> >>> wards
> >>> for 8 years up north and they were the biggest crooks on the planet,
did
> >>> they have work? Yes they did, lots of it, when I quit and went back to
> >>> work
> >>> for myself did I have work? Well here I am 10 years later still making
a
> >>> decent living, STOP worrying about your competition and concentrate on
> >>> your
> >>> business and what has kept you in business, charging a fair price and
> >>> treating your customer as you would like to be treated and you`ll be
in
> >>> business until your 80, that`s my opinion, Larry E
> >>>
> >>> Larry Eastman
> >>> American TV & Electronics
> >>> Crystal River, Fl. 34428
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Electric Medic" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 8:36 PM
> >>> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Opinion Poll DON'T DELETE, MORE IMPORTANT
THAN
> >>> A
> >>> REPAIR TIP!!!!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Dave, Are you kidding? You mean to tell me a guy living next door to
> >>>> you
> >>>> stealing your business is not worth discussing. That is what they are
> >>>> counting on, GREAT!!!!!!!This is a discussion you should and we all
> >>>> should
> >>>> be interested in. This potentially could end the need for our
services
> >>>> or
> >>>> some of us, (One Shop Lost Is Too Many) if it takes off. I am not
> >>>> talking
> >>>> about some TPA, I am talking about the Big National Service Repair
> >>>> Fleets
> >>>> that the Manufacturers and secretly Organizations are supporting and
> >>>> will
> >>>> have more control over. They will be in nice, caged, fully equipped
> >>>> Vans
> >>>> with all the latest test equipment and boards, parts maybe living
right
> >>> next
> >>>> door to us. They will have new leased vans (thousands of them) Radio
> >>>> Dispatched, getting new ones every couple of years, all painted the
> >>>> same
> >>>> colors. Sort of like the old Sears vans in the 40's, 50's, and 60's.
> >>> Except
> >>>> this time they are not selling anything but service. Stealing from
us.
> >>>> You
> >>>> don't think customers will use them, with their nice uniforms and
nice
> >>> vans,
> >>>> cheaper rates than us. Also, they are not going to be strangers, they
> >>>> will
> >>>> be us, except we will no longer have a business, and we will be
saying
> >>> "Yes
> >>>> Sir" to all sorts of Managers. They will not have the overhead of a
> >>>> shop,
> >>>> they will be living at their homes, with travel expenses, all profits
> >>>> to
> >>> the
> >>>> company, that is why they will pay so good. It will work, they will
be
> >>> able
> >>>> to repair much cheaper than us, Nationwide. Maybe if we all talked
> >>>> about
> >>> it
> >>>> we might have a chance to stop it or not help it by going to work for
> >>> them.
> >>>> They need our experience so they make it look attractive until they
> >>>> train
> >>> up
> >>>> all the young whippersnappers to take your job.
> >>>>
> >>>> Perry Bower
> >>>> Electric Medic
> >>>> "It's Cheaper to Keep Her"
> >>>> http://www.electricmedic.com
> >>>> 3850 Washington Road  Suite 4C
> >>>> Martinez, Georgia 30907
> >>>> Phone: 706-8MEDIC4  (863-3424)
> >>>> Phone: 706-863-3474
> >>>> Fax: 706-863-2316
> >>>> mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Dave Huston
> >>>> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 6:21 PM
> >>>> To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Opinion Poll (off topic but still concerns
> >>>> electronics)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Enough already..... can you folks take this discussion somewhere
else?
> >>>> I don't mean to be brash but I'm getting tired of deleting all these
> >>>> messages.
> >>>>
> >>>> Dave Huston
> >>>> Huston TV & Electronics
> >>>> 2846 Marion-Cardington Rd.E.
> >>>> Marion,Oh 43302-8919
> >>>> Phone/Fax: 740-389-5726
> >>>> email: HustonTV@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "J Silverman" <greentron@xxxxxxx>
> >>>> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 3:27 PM
> >>>> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Opinion Poll (off topic but still concerns
> >>>> electronics)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Hey! Dont call me crazy! I just hadnt had a cup of coffee yet that
day.
> >>>> Jerry Silverman
> >>>> Greentron Inc
> >>>> 4 Newland Ave
> >>>> Greenville SC 29609
> >>>> Fax/Phone 864 232 3889
> >>>> mail to: greentron@xxxxxxx
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "Al L" <alleathe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 3:01 PM
> >>>> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Opinion Poll (off topic but still concerns
> >>>> electronics)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> > I can's afford all that stuff Dougie! Why do you think I was
driving
> >>>> > an
> >>>> old
> >>>> > Police Car?Speaking of the Crown Vic,Red with rubber grommet hole
in
> >>>> > roof,remember that crazy hillbilly truck driver on the interstate
> >>>> > that
> >>>> > thought I was a police car,jerked over into the right lane,and got
> >>> pissed
> >>>> of
> >>>> > when i passed him? Crazy guy chased me about ten miles at speeds of
> >>>> > up
> >>> to
> >>>> > ninety,lost the sucker on the hills and bends that are W. Va.  al
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Al Leatherman
> >>>> > 224 RT. 46
> >>>> > Mine Hill, NJ 07803
> >>>> > 973-361-5796
> >>>> > WWW.ALS-TV.NET
> >>>> >
> >>>> > ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> > From: "Doug Keller" <dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> > Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 2:25 PM
> >>>> > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Opinion Poll (off topic but still
concerns
> >>>> > electronics)
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > > AL L. bought himself a white cane, pair of sunglasses, a tin cup,
> >>>> > > and
> >>>> > > some pencils as his retirement plan.
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > Doug Keller
> >>>> > > Wis-Kel Electronics
> >>>> > > 101 Freeland Ave.
> >>>> > > Terra Alta, WV
> >>>> > > USA        26764
> >>>> > > dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> > > dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> > > http://www.tech-assist.org
> >>>> > > "Learn from the mistakes of others, because you
> >>>> > > won't live long enough to make them all yourself"
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > John @ Myers TV wrote:
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > >>Al,
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> > >>Yep, I know who you're talking about. I can't argue with your
> >>>> > >>point,
> >>> we
> >>>> > >>all
> >>>> > >>know that the day of get a job, and stay till retirement is long
> >>>> > >>gone.
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> > >>But, The best way to hone the interview skills is to actually go
on
> >>>> > >>interviews. Won't hurt to talk to them.
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> > >>I'm due to graduate next spring, and shift into interview mode,
> >>> anyhow.
> >>>> > >>I'd
> >>>> > >>like to retire someday, and enjoy life, but I don't see that
> >>> happening,
> >>>> on
> >>>> > >>an independent TV Guy salary.
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> > >>John Myers
> >>>> > >>Myers TV Service Company
> >>>> > >>376 E. State St.
> >>>> > >>Alliance, OH 44601
> >>>> > >>Phone (Voice & Fax) (330) 821-6545
> >>>> > >>myers_tv_b@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> > >>www.myerstv.net
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> > >>----- Original Message -----
> >>>> > >>From: "Al L" <alleathe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> > >>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> > >>Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 1:54 PM
> >>>> > >>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Opinion Poll (off topic but still
> >>>> > >>concerns
> >>>> > >>electronics)
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> > >>>Anybody that bites should know,as soon as they don't need
you,they
> >>> fire
> >>>> > >>>
> >>>> > >>>
> >>>> > >>you
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> > >>>and you are up the creek.Anybody think that job will last?I
> >>>> > >>>suggest
> >>>> > >>>
> >>>> > >>>
> >>>> > >>keeping
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> > >>>the business open part time,for protection. I know a guy in New
> >>> England
> >>>> > >>>
> >>>> > >>>
> >>>> > >>had
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> > >>>a great job for a while,then they closed up,and he was back in
his
> >>> own
> >>>> > >>>business,good while it lasted.
> >>>> > >>>   For that kind of money,soon as its unprofitable,bye bye.Since
> >>> there
> >>>> > >>>
> >>>> > >>>
> >>>> > >>will
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> > >>>never be one shop nationwide,and people pay less and less, and
> >>>> > >>>sets
> >>>> cost
> >>>> > >>>less and less,BE CAREFUL! and good luck
> >>>> > >>>
> >>>> > >>>Al Leatherman
> >>>> > >>>224 RT. 46
> >>>> > >>>Mine Hill, NJ 07803
> >>>> > >>>973-361-5796
> >>>> > >>>WWW.ALS-TV.NET
> >>>> > >>>
> >>>> > >>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>> > >>>From: "John @ Myers TV" <myers_tv_b@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> > >>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> > >>>Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 1:28 PM
> >>>> > >>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Opinion Poll (off topic but still
> >>>> > >>>concerns
> >>>> > >>>electronics)
> >>>> > >>>
> >>>> > >>>
> >>>> > >>>
> >>>> > >>>
> >>>> > >>>>On the other hand, what the heck.
> >>>> > >>>>
> >>>> > >>>>I'll let you know.
> >>>> > >>>>
> >>>> > >>>>John Myers
> >>>> > >>>>Myers TV Service Company
> >>>> > >>>>376 E. State St.
> >>>> > >>>>Alliance, OH 44601
> >>>> > >>>>
> >>>> > >>>>phone: (voice & Fax) 330-821-6545
> >>>> > >>>>myers_tv_b@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> > >>>>www.myerstv.net
> >>>> > >>>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>> > >>>>From: "Doug Keller" <dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> > >>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> > >>>>Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 12:33 PM
> >>>> > >>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Opinion Poll (off topic but still
concerns
> >>>> > >>>>electronics)
> >>>> > >>>>
> >>>> > >>>>
> >>>> > >>>>
> >>>> > >>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>Do you think this is a bunch of hot air or what?
> >>>> > >>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>
> >>>> >
> >>>>
>
>>>>>http://jobsearch.monster.com/getjob.asp?JobID=26581517&AVSDM=2005%2D02%
2D1
> >>>> 1+
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> > >>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>--
> >>>> > >>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>Doug Keller
> >>>> > >>>>>Wis-Kel Electronics
> >>>> > >>>>>101 Freeland Ave.
> >>>> > >>>>>Terra Alta, WV
> >>>> > >>>>>USA        26764
> >>>> > >>>>>dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> > >>>>>dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> > >>>>>http://www.tech-assist.org
> >>>> > >>>>>"Learn from the mistakes of others, because you
> >>>> > >>>>>won't live long enough to make them all yourself"
> >>>> > >>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>
> >>>> > >>>>>
> >>>> >
> >>>>
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