Sams DID fold a couple of years ago and has emerged under new ownership, and the parts distributors ARE folding, one after another. Sometimes the remaining customer base is purchased by a surviving distributor like Herman or Fox. Jerry Silverman Greentron Inc 4 Newland Ave Greenville SC 29609 Fax/Phone 864 232 3889 mail to: greentron@xxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: "al m" <ampm@xxxxxxx> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 8:46 AM Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Opinion Poll DON'T DELETE, MORE IMPORTANT THAN A REPAIR TIP!!!! > Yep we need access. But if this happens Sams goes down plus all the > electronic parts places are down too. > Al Marquardt > ampm@xxxxxxx > Al Marquardt Electronic Repair > 206 W Main > Girardville Pa. 17935 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Al L" <alleathe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 8:37 AM > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Opinion Poll DON'T DELETE, MORE IMPORTANT THAN A > REPAIR TIP!!!! > > > > Somebody has to pay truck insurance,liability insurance,and truck > > cost,advertising,dispatch,etc. If the tech doesn't make money,and he/she > > won't under those conditions,it fails. Also the manufacturers don't want > > just one company,they would have to be nuts.We can always beat their > > prices > > and service,but we need access to parts and literature,which the > > manufacturers control,which is why I want NESDA to make nice! > > > > Al Leatherman > > 224 RT. 46 > > Mine Hill, NJ 07803 > > 973-361-5796 > > WWW.ALS-TV.NET > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "al m" <ampm@xxxxxxx> > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 11:10 PM > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Opinion Poll DON'T DELETE, MORE IMPORTANT THAN A > > REPAIR TIP!!!! > > > > > >> Can't see how they can charge less than I am. > >> Al Marquardt > >> ampm@xxxxxxx > >> Al Marquardt Electronic Repair > >> 206 W Main > >> Girardville Pa. 17935 > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Electric Medic" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 10:53 PM > >> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Opinion Poll DON'T DELETE, MORE IMPORTANT THAN > >> A > >> REPAIR TIP!!!! > >> > >> > >>>I understand this to be much different than Wards or Sears. They had huge > >>> storefronts in all cities, with lights and all. Lots of overhead. I am > >>> not > >>> saying this to be afraid of competition, I competed with wards and > >>> Sears, > >>> and fixed many behind them. This is a little different, they are getting > >>> a > >>> big advantage here and lots of help from our peers. This new Service > >>> Company > >>> will have none of that overhead. Just the technicians salary and Van. > >>> They > >>> will be able to charge dirt cheap prices with a much better chance of > >>> taking > >>> some or lots of our business. The nearest storefronts will be some > >>> Corporate > >>> Headquarters' somewhere where the Techs will have training and business > >>> meetings. They can put all their money in BIG HUGE Yellow Page ads. If > >>> we > >>> think Wards and Sears had some business, this will make them look like > >>> Hobo's. And to top it all off they will start with the manufacturers, > >>> and > >>> Service Organizations backing. It is like opening a McDonalds > >>> restaurant, > >>> instant business. You know whom the Manufacturers will recommend when > >>> customers call them, it won't be us. That's fine, make light of it, that > >>> is > >>> what the poor hardware store owners said of Wal-Mart, and the Computer > >>> software guru's said of Microsoft. The rest is History. > >>> > >>> Perry Bower > >>> Electric Medic > >>> "It's Cheaper to Keep Her" > >>> http://www.electricmedic.com > >>> 3850 Washington Road Suite 4C > >>> Martinez, Georgia 30907 > >>> Phone: 706-8MEDIC4 (863-3424) > >>> Phone: 706-863-3474 > >>> Fax: 706-863-2316 > >>> mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>> [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Larry E > >>> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 10:36 PM > >>> To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Opinion Poll DON'T DELETE, MORE IMPORTANT THAN > >>> A REPAIR TIP!!!! > >>> > >>> > >>> I`ve watched this post from the beginning and wasn`t going to reply to > >>> it > >>> but I`m going to throw my 2 cents in anyway. Montgomery Wards & Sears > >>> have been doing this for over 40 years (yes I know wards is gone), it`s > >>> nothing > >>> new, hell NAP had factory service for years all over the place, did we > >>> all > >>> lose our jobs? NO we didn`t, UPS has been doing it for quite awhile now, > >>> if your afraid of the competition then you shouldn`t be self employed, > >>> there are fewer of us than ever before, and even if they do find enough > >>> qualified help (which I doubt) they will just be another sears/wards > >>> service > >>> center, high priced service calls, labor & parts markup, I worked for > >>> wards > >>> for 8 years up north and they were the biggest crooks on the planet, did > >>> they have work? Yes they did, lots of it, when I quit and went back to > >>> work > >>> for myself did I have work? Well here I am 10 years later still making a > >>> decent living, STOP worrying about your competition and concentrate on > >>> your > >>> business and what has kept you in business, charging a fair price and > >>> treating your customer as you would like to be treated and you`ll be in > >>> business until your 80, that`s my opinion, Larry E > >>> > >>> Larry Eastman > >>> American TV & Electronics > >>> Crystal River, Fl. 34428 > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "Electric Medic" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 8:36 PM > >>> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Opinion Poll DON'T DELETE, MORE IMPORTANT THAN > >>> A > >>> REPAIR TIP!!!! > >>> > >>> > >>>> Dave, Are you kidding? You mean to tell me a guy living next door to > >>>> you > >>>> stealing your business is not worth discussing. That is what they are > >>>> counting on, GREAT!!!!!!!This is a discussion you should and we all > >>>> should > >>>> be interested in. This potentially could end the need for our services > >>>> or > >>>> some of us, (One Shop Lost Is Too Many) if it takes off. I am not > >>>> talking > >>>> about some TPA, I am talking about the Big National Service Repair > >>>> Fleets > >>>> that the Manufacturers and secretly Organizations are supporting and > >>>> will > >>>> have more control over. They will be in nice, caged, fully equipped > >>>> Vans > >>>> with all the latest test equipment and boards, parts maybe living right > >>> next > >>>> door to us. They will have new leased vans (thousands of them) Radio > >>>> Dispatched, getting new ones every couple of years, all painted the > >>>> same > >>>> colors. Sort of like the old Sears vans in the 40's, 50's, and 60's. > >>> Except > >>>> this time they are not selling anything but service. Stealing from us. > >>>> You > >>>> don't think customers will use them, with their nice uniforms and nice > >>> vans, > >>>> cheaper rates than us. Also, they are not going to be strangers, they > >>>> will > >>>> be us, except we will no longer have a business, and we will be saying > >>> "Yes > >>>> Sir" to all sorts of Managers. They will not have the overhead of a > >>>> shop, > >>>> they will be living at their homes, with travel expenses, all profits > >>>> to > >>> the > >>>> company, that is why they will pay so good. It will work, they will be > >>> able > >>>> to repair much cheaper than us, Nationwide. Maybe if we all talked > >>>> about > >>> it > >>>> we might have a chance to stop it or not help it by going to work for > >>> them. > >>>> They need our experience so they make it look attractive until they > >>>> train > >>> up > >>>> all the young whippersnappers to take your job. > >>>> > >>>> Perry Bower > >>>> Electric Medic > >>>> "It's Cheaper to Keep Her" > >>>> http://www.electricmedic.com > >>>> 3850 Washington Road Suite 4C > >>>> Martinez, Georgia 30907 > >>>> Phone: 706-8MEDIC4 (863-3424) > >>>> Phone: 706-863-3474 > >>>> Fax: 706-863-2316 > >>>> mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>> [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Dave Huston > >>>> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 6:21 PM > >>>> To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Opinion Poll (off topic but still concerns > >>>> electronics) > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Enough already..... can you folks take this discussion somewhere else? > >>>> I don't mean to be brash but I'm getting tired of deleting all these > >>>> messages. > >>>> > >>>> Dave Huston > >>>> Huston TV & Electronics > >>>> 2846 Marion-Cardington Rd.E. > >>>> Marion,Oh 43302-8919 > >>>> Phone/Fax: 740-389-5726 > >>>> email: HustonTV@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>> From: "J Silverman" <greentron@xxxxxxx> > >>>> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>>> Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 3:27 PM > >>>> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Opinion Poll (off topic but still concerns > >>>> electronics) > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Hey! Dont call me crazy! I just hadnt had a cup of coffee yet that day. > >>>> Jerry Silverman > >>>> Greentron Inc > >>>> 4 Newland Ave > >>>> Greenville SC 29609 > >>>> Fax/Phone 864 232 3889 > >>>> mail to: greentron@xxxxxxx > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>> From: "Al L" <alleathe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>>> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>>> Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 3:01 PM > >>>> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Opinion Poll (off topic but still concerns > >>>> electronics) > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > I can's afford all that stuff Dougie! Why do you think I was driving > >>>> > an > >>>> old > >>>> > Police Car?Speaking of the Crown Vic,Red with rubber grommet hole in > >>>> > roof,remember that crazy hillbilly truck driver on the interstate > >>>> > that > >>>> > thought I was a police car,jerked over into the right lane,and got > >>> pissed > >>>> of > >>>> > when i passed him? Crazy guy chased me about ten miles at speeds of > >>>> > up > >>> to > >>>> > ninety,lost the sucker on the hills and bends that are W. Va. al > >>>> > > >>>> > Al Leatherman > >>>> > 224 RT. 46 > >>>> > Mine Hill, NJ 07803 > >>>> > 973-361-5796 > >>>> > WWW.ALS-TV.NET > >>>> > > >>>> > ----- Original Message ----- > >>>> > From: "Doug Keller" <dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>>> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>>> > Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 2:25 PM > >>>> > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Opinion Poll (off topic but still concerns > >>>> > electronics) > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > AL L. bought himself a white cane, pair of sunglasses, a tin cup, > >>>> > > and > >>>> > > some pencils as his retirement plan. > >>>> > > > >>>> > > Doug Keller > >>>> > > Wis-Kel Electronics > >>>> > > 101 Freeland Ave. > >>>> > > Terra Alta, WV > >>>> > > USA 26764 > >>>> > > dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>> > > dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>> > > http://www.tech-assist.org > >>>> > > "Learn from the mistakes of others, because you > >>>> > > won't live long enough to make them all yourself" > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > John @ Myers TV wrote: > >>>> > > > >>>> > >>Al, > >>>> > >> > >>>> > >>Yep, I know who you're talking about. I can't argue with your > >>>> > >>point, > >>> we > >>>> > >>all > >>>> > >>know that the day of get a job, and stay till retirement is long > >>>> > >>gone. > >>>> > >> > >>>> > >>But, The best way to hone the interview skills is to actually go on > >>>> > >>interviews. Won't hurt to talk to them. > >>>> > >> > >>>> > >>I'm due to graduate next spring, and shift into interview mode, > >>> anyhow. > >>>> > >>I'd > >>>> > >>like to retire someday, and enjoy life, but I don't see that > >>> happening, > >>>> on > >>>> > >>an independent TV Guy salary. > >>>> > >> > >>>> > >>John Myers > >>>> > >>Myers TV Service Company > >>>> > >>376 E. State St. > >>>> > >>Alliance, OH 44601 > >>>> > >>Phone (Voice & Fax) (330) 821-6545 > >>>> > >>myers_tv_b@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>> > >>www.myerstv.net > >>>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>>> > >>From: "Al L" <alleathe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>>> > >>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>>> > >>Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 1:54 PM > >>>> > >>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Opinion Poll (off topic but still > >>>> > >>concerns > >>>> > >>electronics) > >>>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> > >>>Anybody that bites should know,as soon as they don't need you,they > >>> fire > >>>> > >>> > >>>> > >>> > >>>> > >>you > >>>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> > >>>and you are up the creek.Anybody think that job will last?I > >>>> > >>>suggest > >>>> > >>> > >>>> > >>> > >>>> > >>keeping > >>>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> > >>>the business open part time,for protection. I know a guy in New > >>> England > >>>> > >>> > >>>> > >>> > >>>> > >>had > >>>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> > >>>a great job for a while,then they closed up,and he was back in his > >>> own > >>>> > >>>business,good while it lasted. > >>>> > >>> For that kind of money,soon as its unprofitable,bye bye.Since > >>> there > >>>> > >>> > >>>> > >>> > >>>> > >>will > >>>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> > >>>never be one shop nationwide,and people pay less and less, and > >>>> > >>>sets > >>>> cost > >>>> > >>>less and less,BE CAREFUL! and good luck > >>>> > >>> > >>>> > >>>Al Leatherman > >>>> > >>>224 RT. 46 > >>>> > >>>Mine Hill, NJ 07803 > >>>> > >>>973-361-5796 > >>>> > >>>WWW.ALS-TV.NET > >>>> > >>> > >>>> > >>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>> > >>>From: "John @ Myers TV" <myers_tv_b@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>>> > >>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>>> > >>>Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 1:28 PM > >>>> > >>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Opinion Poll (off topic but still > >>>> > >>>concerns > >>>> > >>>electronics) > >>>> > >>> > >>>> > >>> > >>>> > >>> > >>>> > >>> > >>>> > >>>>On the other hand, what the heck. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>I'll let you know. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>John Myers > >>>> > >>>>Myers TV Service Company > >>>> > >>>>376 E. 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