Yeah, well I'll try to read into it a little more, and see if there's a perspective I'm missing......which I did..... Damon Brunger ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bil Green" <tv.vcrrepair@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Damon" <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 3:39 PM Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem | Hi Damon, | | I agree that I should have used a few more words. This was rather | misleading. I try to keep things brief (and still end up saying | way more than some would like to read). | | There's no doubt that 2000 and XP Pro are by far the best Windows | OS so far | | -- | Best regards, | | Bil Green | PC 1000 | Mammoth Lakes, CA 93546 | 760-924-1000 mailto:tv.vcrrepair@xxxxxxxxxxx | | Tuesday, June 15, 2004, 6:39:00 AM, you wrote: | | D> Ok folks, I apologize to Bil Green for reading way too much into his | D> statement: | D> "All the pro's seem to agree that upgrading from Win98 or Me to | D> 2000 or XP is a very poor choice" | | D> I see after this conversation that he was speaking of installation | D> procedures and not of the software quality. But as I leave this | D> conversation....lettuce agree that words have power...and constructing these | D> words can certainly bring us problems if we do not carefully select the | D> words to use.....May be I would have said: | | D> "All the pro's seem to agree that an installation upgrade from Win98 or Me | D> to | D> 2000 or XP is a very poor choice. A clean install is better." | | D> Or better yet: | | D> A clean install is the preferred method for most pro's if you choose to | D> upgrade to XP.....(note the extra space left unused by this nitpicker). | | D> Damon Brunger | D> Telrad Electronic Services | D> Ft Wayne, IN 46815 | | D> ----- Original Message ----- | D> From: "Ty" <ty1k@xxxxxxxxxxx> | D> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | D> Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 7:48 PM | D> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem | | | D> | I like the way you put that Bill! | D> | I second that! | D> | Philip, I must disagree with you though. | D> | I do not think any one should be banned. | D> | Sometimes it takes a grain of salt, sometimes a pound. | D> | But think of it, where would this world be without watchdogs? >(;o) | D> | | D> | Ty | D> | | D> | Tiberius Kraemer | D> | BLUE STAR ELECTRONICS | D> | 3312 Silverton Rd. NE | D> | Salem, Oregon | D> | Phone: 503 391 1491 | D> | Mailto:ty1k@xxxxxxxxxxx | D> | | D> | | D> | | D> | -----Original Message----- | D> | From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | D> | [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Bil Green | D> | Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 1:32 PM | D> | To: Phillip R. Hull | D> | Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem | D> | | D> | | D> | Thanks Phillip, | D> | | D> | Most of the guys are just fine. There's bound to be a wise guy or | D> | just someone who has to nit pick in every bunch. At least they | D> | can't stop us from giving good advice, which still reaches the | D> | group. | D> | | D> | -- | D> | Best regards, | D> | | D> | Bil Green | D> | PC 1000 | D> | Mammoth Lakes, CA 93546 | D> | 760-924-1000 mailto:tv.vcrrepair@xxxxxxxxxxx | D> | | D> | Monday, June 14, 2004, 7:02:13 AM, you wrote: | D> | | | PRH>> It seems like people like to cut you down, no matter what you post | D> | because | | PRH>> their idea is always better than yours or they have to nit pick every | D> | word | | PRH>> you use and take your post apart and make you look bad. I think | D> anyone | D> | that | | PRH>> does this should be banned from this group. | D> | | | PRH>> Phillip R Hull STET | | PRH>> phil245@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | | PRH>> FAX 517--569-3075 | | PRH>> Professional Technicians only | | PRH>> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem | D> | | D> | | | >>> I didn't say that all the pro agree with ME. I said: "All the pro's | | >>> seem to agree that upgrading from Win98 or Me to 2000 or XP is a very | | >>> poor choice." I should have said that MOST of the pro's... And it | | >>> appears that upgrading to 2000 causes more problems than XP. | | >>> | | >>> There are 2 meanings to the word upgrade. When you upgrade your PC with | | >>> a better motherboard you don't keep the old motherboard in the system. | | >>> | | >>> But when you upgrade from Windows 98 to XP by using the XP upgrade CD | | >>> it not the same as a clean install. Apparently with XP it goes | | >>> smoother than with Me or 2000, but it's still better to do a fresh | | >>> install. You can always try it and see how it goes. | | >>> | | >>> The last thing I would ever do is format (no need if you know how to | | >>> delete the folders "Windows" and "Program Files" (and all unnecessary | | >>> files and folders under C:). This way you can keep your personal | | >>> folders and files when doing a fresh install (and it will be totally | | >>> fresh). | | >>> | | >>> | | >>> -- | | >>> Best regards, | | >>> | | >>> Bil Green | | >>> PC 1000 | | >>> Mammoth Lakes, CA 93546 | | >>> 760-924-1000 mailto:tv.vcrrepair@xxxxxxxxxxx | | >>> | | >>> Sunday, June 13, 2004, 4:33:28 AM, you wrote: | | >>> | | >>> D> Wait a minute....THAT IS NOT WHAT I PERCIEVED..... | | >>> D> I read that XP is good.....real good to upgrade to.... | | >>> D> (NT wrapped in a pretty wrapper) | | >>> | | >>> D> So what happened to you with XP?? | | >>> D> BTW "all the pro's"?? agree with you?? | | >>> D> Did I miss something here??? | | >>> D> WE NEED AN OFFICIAL POLL.....and I'm just the one to do it. | | >>> D> Fill in your initials like this: (thanks guys) | | >>> | | >>> D> Love it | | >>> D> V db jrm (plenty of room on this side guys........) | | >>> D> V | | >>> D> Hate it (CPU below 500MHZ/3Gig HD or less) | | >>> D> V | | >>> D> Hate it (CPU below 1.0 GHz/10Gig HD or less) | | >>> D> V | | >>> D> V | | >>> D> V | | >>> D> V | | >>> D> V | | >>> D> V | | >>> D> V | | >>> D> Hate it......I just hate it.....I tried to install it, but I just | D> hate | | PRH>> it. | | >>> D> Hate, Hate Hate Hate Hate. I'd do awful things to it if it were a | | PRH>> girl..... | | | >>> D> V | | >>> D> (Thanks guys) | | >>> | | >>> D> Damon Brunger | | >>> D> Telrad Electronic Services | | >>> D> Ft Wayne, IN 46815 | | >>> | | >>> D> ----- Original Message ----- | | >>> D> From: "Bil Green" <tv.vcrrepair@xxxxxxxxxxx> | | >>> D> To: "Damon" <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | | >>> D> Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 2:27 AM | | >>> D> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem | | >>> | | >>> | | >>> D> | All the pro's seem to agree that upgrading from Win98 or Me to | | >>> D> | 2000 or XP is a very poor choice. The various errors and file | | >>> D> | corruption will still be there. There is years of evidence to | | >>> D> | back this up. | | >>> D> | | | >>> D> | How will the old version of Windows just go away? | | >>> D> | | | >>> D> | | | >>> D> | -- | | >>> D> | Best regards, | | >>> D> | | | >>> D> | Bil Green | | >>> D> | PC 1000 | | >>> D> | Mammoth Lakes, CA 93546 | | >>> D> | 760-924-1000 | | PRH>> mailto:tv.vcrrepair@xxxxxxxxxxx | | >>> D> | | | >>> D> | Friday, June 11, 2004, 6:22:23 PM, you wrote: | | >>> D> | | | >>> | D>> Hmm, never thought about that....shipping. Ok, I'll keep my eyes | | PRH>> peeled | | >>> D> for | | >>> | D>> local sales.... | | >>> D> | | | >>> | D>> Damon Brunger | | >>> D> | | | >>> | D>> ----- Original Message ----- | | >>> | D>> From: "Jim Myers" <jr.myers@xxxxxxxxxxx> | | >>> | D>> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | | >>> | D>> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 10:07 AM | | >>> | D>> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem | | >>> D> | | | >>> D> | | | >>> | D>> | Don't believe everything you read Damon, just do an upgrade to | D> XP | | >>> D> Home, | | >>> | D>> | no need to remove or uninstall 98SE, it will go away on it's | D> own. | | >>> D> Better | | >>> | D>> | to get the real thing though, not an OEM version made for | D> Gateway | | PRH>> or | | >>> | D>> | Dell. 75 bucks plus 25 shipping is still 100.00, right? | | >>> | D>> | | | >>> | D>> | | >>> D> | | PRH>> | D> | | D> **************************************************************************** | | >>> | D>> *************************************** | | >>> | D>> | Since 1972 | | >>> | D>> | Jim Myers | | >>> | D>> | Telrad Electronics | | >>> | D>> | Fort Wayne, Indiana | | >>> | D>> | | | >>> | D>> | | | >>> | D>> | Damon wrote: | | >>> | | >>> Hi Jim, | | >>> | | >>> | | >>> | | >>> I've got Win 98SE (OEM) and I want to rip it (literally) off my | | PRH>> hard | | >>> | D>> drive | | >>> | | >>> and replace it with XP (OEM).....will my old software I've been | | PRH>> using | | >>> D> on | | >>> | D>> 98 | | >>> | | >>> survive?? (Kazaa, Picture IT, Realplayer, Outlook Express, | | PRH>> Internet | | >>> | | >>> Explorer, etc...) | | >>> | | >>> | | >>> | | >>> I've got an "Uninstall Win98" button in my Add/Remove program | D> in | | >>> D> Control | | >>> | | >>> box.... | | >>> | | >>> I've been waiting to push it when XP got cheap, alas I see for | D> | $50 | | PRH>> I | | >>> D> can | | >>> | | >>> only get XP Professional or $70 XP Home. | | >>> | | >>> | | >>> | | >>> Is XP Home Worth The Extra $20.00??? You said you liked it | | >>> | D>> better....more | | >>> | | >>> toys in the toybox??? If there's better picture and music stuff | | PRH>> I'd | | >>> D> go | | >>> | D>> for | | >>> | | >>> it... | | >>> | | >>> | | >>> | | >>> Damon Brunger | | >>> | | >>> Telrad Electronic Services | | >>> | | >>> Ft Wayne, IN 46815 | | >>> | | >>> ----- Original Message ----- | | >>> | | >>> From: "Jim Myers" <jr.myers@xxxxxxxxxxx> | | >>> | | >>> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | | >>> | | >>> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 4:40 PM | | >>> | | >>> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem | | >>> | | >>> | | >>> | | >>> | | >>> | | >>> | It is the same, a clean install with an XP upgrade version | D> | works | | >>> D> just | | >>> | | >>> | fine as long as you have the required prior version windows | | PRH>> install | | >>> | D>> media. | | >>> | | >>> | | | >>> | | >>> | | >>> | D>> | | >>> D> | | PRH>> | D> | | D> **************************************************************************** | | >>> | | >>> *************************************** | | >>> | | >>> | Since 1972 | | >>> | | >>> | Jim Myers | | >>> | | >>> | Telrad Electronics | | >>> | | >>> | Fort Wayne, Indiana | | >>> | | >>> | | | >>> | | >>> | | | >>> | | >>> | Gary McCartney wrote: | | >>> | | >>> | > If XP is like previous Windows OS's, then an upgrade CD can | | >>> D> easily | | >>> | | >>> | > install to a clean hard drive. You just have to have a copy | D> | of | | >>> D> the | | >>> | | >>> | > previous version CD in order to get past a security check | D> as | | PRH>> the | | >>> | D>> upgrade | | >>> | | >>> | > install is running. | | >>> | | >>> | > | | >>> | | >>> | > Example: | | >>> | | >>> | > | | >>> | | >>> | > To install Win 98SE upgrade on a clean hard drive, you need | D> | to | | >>> D> have | | >>> | D>> a | | >>> | | >>> | > copy of Win 98 1st ed. or Win 95 install cd on hand. When | D> the | | PRH>> win | | >>> | D>> 98SE | | >>> | | >>> | > install asks for confirmation you are an owner of a | D> previous | | >>> D> Windows | | >>> | D>> OS, | | >>> | | >>> | > you insert the 98 or 95 CD and it will verify it, then | | PRH>> continue | | >>> D> the | | >>> | D>> 98SE | | >>> | | >>> | > install as if the CD was the full install version. | | >>> | | >>> | > | | >>> | | >>> | > I have not tried this with a XP upgrade CD so I am not sure | | PRH>> that | | >>> D> it | | >>> | D>> will | | >>> | | >>> | > work. I seem to recall doing it with a Win 2000 upgrade CD | D> | and | | PRH>> it | | >>> | | >>> | > worked. | | >>> | | >>> | > | | >>> | | >>> | > | | >>> | | >>> | > | | >>> | | >>> | > | | >>> | | >>> | > Gary McCartney | | >>> | | >>> | > | | >>> | | >>> | > McCartney Electronics | | >>> | | >>> | > Guelph Ontario Canada | | >>> | | >>> | > Est. 1984 | | >>> | | >>> | > email: gary (at) number63.ca | | >>> | | >>> | > | | >>> | | >>> | > | | >>> | | >>> | > | | >>> | | >>> | > | | >>> | | >>> | > | | >>> | | >>> | > | | >>> | | >>> | > | | >>> | | >>> | > Technotronic Dimensions wrote: | | >>> | | >>> | > | | >>> | | >>> | >>Indeed True. | | >>> | | >>> | >> | | >>> | | >>> | >>However, Upgrade installs usually have some kind of | | PRH>> irreperable | | >>> | D>> issues | | >>> | | >>> later | | >>> | | >>> | >>because of it not being a clean Install. | | >>> | | >>> | >> | | >>> | | >>> | >>It Parallels the Concept of using Cheap Generic Repair | D> Parts | | PRH>> over | | >>> | | >>> Original | | >>> | | >>> | >>Parts. You get what you pay for. | | >>> | | >>> | >> | | >>> | | >>> | >>Steve Hearns | | >>> | | >>> | >>Technotronic Dimensions, NY [USA] | | >>> | | >>> | >>WWW.TECHNOTRONIC-DIMENSIONS.COM | | >>> | | >>> | >>1-877-817-9885 (Voice / Fax Toll Free - US Only) | | >>> | | >>> | >> | | >>> | | >>> | >>----- Original Message ----- | | >>> | | >>> | >>From: "becyn" <becyn@xxxxxxxxxx> | | >>> | | >>> | >>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | | >>> | | >>> | >>Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 5:20 PM | | >>> | | >>> | >>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem | | >>> | | >>> | >> | | >>> | | >>> | >>The upgrade version of both XP and XP is cheaper. | | >>> | | >>> | >> | | >>> | | >>> | >>Jim McVey | | >>> | | >>> | >>McVey Alltronix | | >>> | | >>> | >>327 Broadway | | >>> | | >>> | >>Newburgh Ny 12550 | | >>> | | >>> | >>ph: 845 561 8383 | | >>> | | >>> | >>fx: 845 561 9017 | | >>> | | >>> | >>Consumer electronics & | | >>> | | >>> | >>computer service. | | >>> | | >>> | >>Factory authorized for | | >>> | | >>> | >>over twenty brands. | | >>> | | >>> | >>----- Original Message ----- | | >>> | | >>> | >>From: "Tel-Tek Electronics" <teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx> | | >>> | | >>> | >>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | | >>> | | >>> | >>Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 2:05 PM | | >>> | | >>> | >>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem | | >>> | | >>> | >> | | >>> | | >>> | >> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>$329 for XP Pro. | | >>> | | >>> | >>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>-Ed- | | >>> | | >>> | >>>Tel-Tek Electronics | | >>> | | >>> | >>>Ontario-Canada | | >>> | | >>> | >>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx | | >>> | | >>> | >>>Ask me about the Tech Repair CD. | | >>> | | >>> | >>>----- Original Message ----- | | >>> | | >>> | >>>From: "Jerome Silverman" <greentron@xxxxxxx> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 1:07 PM | | >>> | | >>> | >>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem | | >>> | | >>> | >>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>What do you consider overpriced? About a year ago I paid | D> | $79 | | PRH>> US | | >>> D> on | | >>> | | >>> eBay. | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>Jerry Silverman | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>Greentron Inc | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>4 Newland Ave Greenville SC 29609 | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>864 232 3889 Fax 271 2080 | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>greentron@xxxxxxx | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>----- Original Message ----- | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>From: "Tel-Tek" <teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 8:40 AM | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem | | >>> | | >>> | >>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>XP is very stable. But overpriced. Almost worth your | D> | effort | | >>> D> to, | | >>> | D>> if | | >>> | | >>> you | | >>> | | >>> | >>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>have | | >>> | | >>> | >>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>an obsolete computer, to buy a new one, with XP Home | | >>> D> installed. | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>-Ed- | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>Tel-Tek Electronics | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>Ontario-Canada | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>----- Original Message ----- | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>From: "Kevin" <kevintv@xxxxxxx> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 10:20 PM | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Yes, I am still running 98. I get that 'Illegal | | PRH>> operations' | | >>> | D>> message | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>every so often, but I just ignore it and the computer | | PRH>> keeps | | >>> | D>> working | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>fine. I rarely get the BSOD. Is XP 100% stable? | D> Other | | >>> D> people | | >>> | D>> have | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>complained about XP and tell me that if Windows 98 is | | PRH>> working | | >>> | D>> for me | | >>> | | >>> | >>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>to | | >>> | | >>> | >>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>just keep using it. What do you think? | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Kevin Wilks | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Kevin's TV & Video Repair | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Penticton BC Canada | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>kevintv@xxxxxxx | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>-----Original Message----- | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of | | PRH>> David | | >>> | D>> Lessard | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 12:21 PM | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Illegal operations? Are you still running 98 Kevin? | | PRH>> Upgrade | | >>> D> to | | >>> | D>> XP. | | >>> | | >>> | >> | | >>> | | >>> | >>No | | >>> | | >>> | >> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>more BSOD (blue screen of death). At least you can | D> close | | PRH>> down | | >>> D> a | | >>> | | >>> | >> | | >>> | | >>> | >>crash | | >>> | | >>> | >> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>application. | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>David Lessard | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>mr_fixit@xxxxxxxxxxxx | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>-----Original Message----- | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of | | PRH>> Kevin | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 12:56 AM | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>I hate them because my computer is always doing illegal | | >>> | D>> operations | | >>> | | >>> | >> | | >>> | | >>> | >>and | | >>> | | >>> | >> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>will be shut down. | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>I hate them because I have high speed cable internet | D> and | D> | a | | PRH>> 1 | | >>> D> gig | | >>> | | >>> | >> | | >>> | | >>> | >>CPU, | | >>> | | >>> | >> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>but sometimes when I connect to the internet it is like | D> I | | PRH>> am | | >>> | D>> back on | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>dial-up. | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Any more reasons? | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Kevin Wilks | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Kevin's TV & Video Repair | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Penticton BC Canada | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>kevintv@xxxxxxx | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>-----Original Message----- | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of | | PRH>> David | | >>> | D>> Lessard | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 11:50 AM | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Kevin, | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Repeat after me...Computers are my friend...Computers | D> are | | PRH>> my | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>friend...everything should work just fine now...:-) | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>David Lessard | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Alexandria, Ontario | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>mr_fixit@xxxxxxxxxxxx | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>-----Original Message----- | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of | | PRH>> Tel-Tek | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 12:43 AM | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Kevin; | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>If you hate them, they will know...and do all kinds of | D> | odd | | >>> | D>> things | | >>> | | >>> | >> | | >>> | | >>> | >>for | | >>> | | >>> | >> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>you.;-) | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>-Ed- | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Tel-Tek Electronics | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Ontario-Canada | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>----- Original Message ----- | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>From: "Kevin" <kevintv@xxxxxxx> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 7:10 PM | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>I hate computers all the time! | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Kevin Wilks | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Kevin's TV & Video Repair | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Penticton BC Canada | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>kevintv@xxxxxxx | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>-----Original Message----- | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>gulftech@xxxxxxxx | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 12:21 PM | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Jim, | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>I have done that. That program is gone, but it came | D> | with | | >>> | D>> add-ons, | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>that | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>appear to be the problem. I need to know what wcpsvsu | | PRH>> is. | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Sometimes, I hate computers! | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Ken Smith | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Gulf Technical Services | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>3034 Gulf Breeze Parkway | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Gulf Breeze, FL 32563 | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>850-934-8324 (Voice) 850-932-0819 (Fax) | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 14:10:28 -0500 Jim Myers | | >>> | | >>> | >> | | >>> | | >>> | >><jr.myers@xxxxxxxxxxx> | | >>> | | >>> | >> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>writes: | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>Try uninstalling the time check program in windows | | PRH>> control | | >>> | D>> panel | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>add/remove programs. | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | | | >>> | | >>> | | >>> | D>> | | | >>> D> | | | >>> | D> | | >>>>>>>>******************************************************************** * | D> | * | | PRH>> * | | >>> D> * | | >>> | | >>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>* | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>****************************************** | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>Since 1972 | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>Jim Myers | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>Telrad Electronics | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>Fort Wayne, Indiana | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>gulftech@xxxxxxxx wrote: | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>I somehow loaded a program I did not wish to do. It | | PRH>> was | | >>> | D>> "Time | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>Check" or | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>something like that. Since then, my computer has | D> been | | >>> | | >>> | >> | | >>> | | >>> | >>squirley. | | >>> | | >>> | >> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>I wish | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>I could be more specific, but to be more specific, I | | PRH>> would | | >>> | | >>> | >> | | >>> | | >>> | >>have | | >>> | | >>> | >> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>to | | >>> | | >>> | >>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>restart and then fool with things to get my selected | | >>> D> programs | | >>> | | >>> | >> | | >>> | | >>> | >>to | | >>> | | >>> | >> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>appear | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>on the bottom of the screen. Sometimes, all the | D> icons | | PRH>> on | | >>> D> my | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>screen | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>disappear. | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>I am able to use the computer, but get the message | | >>> D> "wcpsvsu | | >>> | | >>> | >> | | >>> | | >>> | >>not | | >>> | | >>> | >> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>responding." Can someone tell me what that is, and | D> a | | >>> D> remedy | | >>> | | >>> | >> | | >>> | | >>> | >>for | | >>> | | >>> | >> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>it? | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>TIA, | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>Ken Smith | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>Gulf Technical Services | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>3034 Gulf Breeze Parkway | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>Gulf Breeze, FL 32563 | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>850-934-8324 (Voice) 850-932-0819 (Fax) | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >> | | >>> | | >>> | | | >>>>________________________________________________________________ | | >>> | | >>> | >> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno | | >>> D> SpeedBand! | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up | | PRH>> today! | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>> | | >>> | | >>> | | | >>> | | >>> | | >>> | D>> | | | >>> D> | | | >>> | D> | | >>>>>>>>>------------------------------------------------------------------- - 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