[TechAssist] Re: Computer problem

  • From: Bil Green <tv.vcrrepair@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: Damon <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 13:39:47 -0700

Hi Damon,

I agree that I should have used a few more words. This was rather
misleading. I try to keep things brief (and still end up saying
way more than some would like to read).

There's no doubt that 2000 and XP Pro are by far the best Windows
OS so far

-- 
Best regards,
 
 Bil Green 
 PC 1000
 Mammoth Lakes, CA 93546
 760-924-1000                           mailto:tv.vcrrepair@xxxxxxxxxxx

Tuesday, June 15, 2004, 6:39:00 AM, you wrote:

D> Ok folks, I apologize to Bil Green for reading way too much into his
D> statement:
D> "All the pro's seem to agree that upgrading from Win98 or Me to
D>  2000 or XP is a very poor choice"

D> I see after this conversation that he was speaking of installation
D> procedures and not of the software quality. But as I leave this
D> conversation....lettuce agree that words have power...and constructing these
D> words can certainly bring us problems if we do not carefully select the
D> words to use.....May be I would have said:

D> "All the pro's seem to agree that an installation upgrade from Win98 or Me
D> to
D>  2000 or XP is a very poor choice. A clean install is better."

D> Or better yet:

D> A clean install is the preferred method for most pro's if you choose to
D> upgrade to XP.....(note the extra space left unused by this nitpicker).

D> Damon Brunger
D> Telrad Electronic Services
D> Ft Wayne, IN 46815

D> ----- Original Message -----
D> From: "Ty" <ty1k@xxxxxxxxxxx>
D> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
D> Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 7:48 PM
D> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem


D> | I like the way you put that Bill!
D> | I second that!
D> | Philip, I must disagree with you though.
D> | I do not think any one should be banned.
D> | Sometimes it takes a grain of salt, sometimes a pound.
D> | But think of it, where would this world be without watchdogs? >(;o)
D> |
D> | Ty
D> |
D> | Tiberius Kraemer
D> | BLUE STAR ELECTRONICS
D> | 3312 Silverton Rd. NE
D> | Salem, Oregon
D> | Phone: 503 391 1491
D> | Mailto:ty1k@xxxxxxxxxxx
D> |
D> |
D> |
D> | -----Original Message-----
D> | From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
D> | [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Bil Green
D> | Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 1:32 PM
D> | To: Phillip R. Hull
D> | Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem
D> |
D> |
D> | Thanks Phillip,
D> |
D> | Most of the guys are just fine. There's bound to be a wise guy or
D> | just someone who has to nit pick in every bunch. At least they
D> | can't stop us from giving good advice, which still reaches the
D> | group.
D> |
D> | --
D> | Best regards,
D> |
D> |  Bil Green
D> |  PC 1000
D> |  Mammoth Lakes, CA 93546
D> |  760-924-1000                           mailto:tv.vcrrepair@xxxxxxxxxxx
D> |
D> | Monday, June 14, 2004, 7:02:13 AM, you wrote:
D> |
| PRH>> It seems like people like to cut you down, no matter what you post
D> | because
| PRH>> their idea is always better than yours or they have to nit pick every
D> | word
| PRH>> you use and take your post apart and make you look bad.  I think
D> anyone
D> | that
| PRH>> does this should be banned from this group.
D> |
| PRH>> Phillip R Hull     STET
| PRH>> phil245@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
| PRH>> FAX 517--569-3075
| PRH>> Professional Technicians only
| PRH>> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem
D> |
D> |
| >>> I didn't say that all the pro agree with ME. I said:  "All the pro's
| >>> seem to agree that upgrading from Win98 or Me to 2000 or XP is a very
| >>> poor choice." I should have said that MOST of the pro's...  And it
| >>> appears that upgrading to 2000 causes more problems than XP.
| >>>
| >>> There are 2 meanings to the word upgrade. When you upgrade your PC with
| >>> a better motherboard you don't keep the old motherboard in the system.
| >>>
| >>> But when you upgrade from Windows 98 to XP by using the XP upgrade CD
| >>> it not the same as a clean install. Apparently with XP it goes
| >>> smoother than with Me or 2000, but it's still better to do a fresh
| >>> install. You can always try it and see how it goes.
| >>>
| >>> The last thing I would ever do is format (no need if you know how to
| >>> delete the folders "Windows" and "Program Files" (and all unnecessary
| >>> files and folders under C:). This way you can keep your personal
| >>> folders and files when doing a fresh install (and it will be totally
| >>> fresh).
| >>>
| >>>
| >>> --
| >>> Best regards,
| >>>
| >>>  Bil Green
| >>>  PC 1000
| >>>  Mammoth Lakes, CA 93546
| >>>  760-924-1000                           mailto:tv.vcrrepair@xxxxxxxxxxx
| >>>
| >>> Sunday, June 13, 2004, 4:33:28 AM, you wrote:
| >>>
| >>> D> Wait a minute....THAT IS NOT WHAT I PERCIEVED.....
| >>> D> I read that XP is good.....real good to upgrade to....
| >>> D> (NT wrapped in a pretty wrapper)
| >>>
| >>> D> So what happened to you with XP??
| >>> D> BTW "all the pro's"?? agree with you??
| >>> D> Did I miss something here???
| >>> D> WE NEED AN OFFICIAL POLL.....and I'm just the one to do it.
| >>> D> Fill in your initials like this:      (thanks guys)
| >>>
| >>> D> Love it
| >>> D> V   db  jrm (plenty of room on this side guys........)
| >>> D> V
| >>> D> Hate it (CPU below 500MHZ/3Gig HD or less)
| >>> D> V
| >>> D> Hate it (CPU below 1.0 GHz/10Gig HD or less)
| >>> D> V
| >>> D> V
| >>> D> V
| >>> D> V
| >>> D> V
| >>> D> V
| >>> D> V
| >>> D> Hate it......I just hate it.....I tried to install it, but I just
D> hate
| PRH>> it.
| >>> D> Hate, Hate Hate Hate Hate. I'd do awful things to it if it were a
| PRH>> girl.....

| >>> D> V
| >>> D> (Thanks guys)
| >>>
| >>> D> Damon Brunger
| >>> D> Telrad Electronic Services
| >>> D> Ft Wayne, IN 46815
| >>>
| >>> D> ----- Original Message -----
| >>> D> From: "Bil Green" <tv.vcrrepair@xxxxxxxxxxx>
| >>> D> To: "Damon" <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| >>> D> Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 2:27 AM
| >>> D> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem
| >>>
| >>>
| >>> D> | All the pro's seem to agree that upgrading from Win98 or Me to
| >>> D> | 2000 or XP is a very poor choice. The various errors and file
| >>> D> | corruption will still be there. There is years of evidence to
| >>> D> | back this up.
| >>> D> |
| >>> D> | How will the old version of Windows just go away?
| >>> D> |
| >>> D> |
| >>> D> | --
| >>> D> | Best regards,
| >>> D> |
| >>> D> |  Bil Green
| >>> D> |  PC 1000
| >>> D> |  Mammoth Lakes, CA 93546
| >>> D> |  760-924-1000
| PRH>> mailto:tv.vcrrepair@xxxxxxxxxxx
| >>> D> |
| >>> D> | Friday, June 11, 2004, 6:22:23 PM, you wrote:
| >>> D> |
| >>> | D>> Hmm, never thought about that....shipping. Ok, I'll keep my eyes
| PRH>> peeled
| >>> D> for
| >>> | D>> local sales....
| >>> D> |
| >>> | D>> Damon Brunger
| >>> D> |
| >>> | D>> ----- Original Message -----
| >>> | D>> From: "Jim Myers" <jr.myers@xxxxxxxxxxx>
| >>> | D>> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| >>> | D>> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 10:07 AM
| >>> | D>> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem
| >>> D> |
| >>> D> |
| >>> | D>> | Don't believe everything you read Damon, just do an upgrade to
D> XP
| >>> D> Home,
| >>> | D>> | no need to remove or uninstall 98SE, it will go away on it's
D> own.
| >>> D> Better
| >>> | D>> | to get the real thing though, not an OEM version made for
D> Gateway
| PRH>> or
| >>> | D>> | Dell. 75 bucks plus 25 shipping is still 100.00, right?
| >>> | D>> |
| >>> | D>>
| >>> D>
| PRH>>
D> |
D> ****************************************************************************
| >>> | D>> ***************************************
| >>> | D>> | Since 1972
| >>> | D>> | Jim Myers
| >>> | D>> | Telrad Electronics
| >>> | D>> | Fort Wayne, Indiana
| >>> | D>> |
| >>> | D>> |
| >>> | D>> | Damon wrote:
| >>> | | >>> Hi Jim,
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | | >>> I've got Win 98SE (OEM) and I want to rip it (literally) off my
| PRH>> hard
| >>> | D>> drive
| >>> | | >>> and replace it with XP (OEM).....will my old software I've been
| PRH>> using
| >>> D> on
| >>> | D>> 98
| >>> | | >>> survive?? (Kazaa, Picture IT, Realplayer, Outlook Express,
| PRH>> Internet
| >>> | | >>> Explorer, etc...)
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | | >>> I've got an "Uninstall Win98" button in my Add/Remove program
D> in
| >>> D> Control
| >>> | | >>> box....
| >>> | | >>> I've been waiting to push it when XP got cheap, alas I see for
D> | $50
| PRH>> I
| >>> D> can
| >>> | | >>> only get XP Professional or $70 XP Home.
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | | >>> Is XP Home Worth The Extra $20.00??? You said you liked it
| >>> | D>> better....more
| >>> | | >>> toys in the toybox??? If there's better picture and music stuff
| PRH>> I'd
| >>> D> go
| >>> | D>> for
| >>> | | >>> it...
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | | >>> Damon Brunger
| >>> | | >>> Telrad Electronic Services
| >>> | | >>> Ft Wayne, IN 46815
| >>> | | >>> ----- Original Message -----
| >>> | | >>> From: "Jim Myers" <jr.myers@xxxxxxxxxxx>
| >>> | | >>> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| >>> | | >>> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 4:40 PM
| >>> | | >>> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | | >>> | It is the same, a clean install with an XP upgrade version
D> | works
| >>> D> just
| >>> | | >>> | fine as long as you have the required prior version windows
| PRH>> install
| >>> | D>> media.
| >>> | | >>> |
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | D>>
| >>> D>
| PRH>>
D> |
D> ****************************************************************************
| >>> | | >>> ***************************************
| >>> | | >>> | Since 1972
| >>> | | >>> | Jim Myers
| >>> | | >>> | Telrad Electronics
| >>> | | >>> | Fort Wayne, Indiana
| >>> | | >>> |
| >>> | | >>> |
| >>> | | >>> | Gary McCartney wrote:
| >>> | | >>> | > If XP is like previous Windows OS's, then an upgrade CD can
| >>> D> easily
| >>> | | >>> | > install to a clean hard drive. You just have to have a copy
D> | of
| >>> D> the
| >>> | | >>> | > previous version CD in order to get past a security check
D> as
| PRH>> the
| >>> | D>> upgrade
| >>> | | >>> | > install is running.
| >>> | | >>> | >
| >>> | | >>> | > Example:
| >>> | | >>> | >
| >>> | | >>> | > To install Win 98SE upgrade on a clean hard drive, you need
D> | to
| >>> D> have
| >>> | D>> a
| >>> | | >>> | > copy of Win 98 1st ed. or Win 95 install cd on hand. When
D> the
| PRH>> win
| >>> | D>> 98SE
| >>> | | >>> | > install asks for confirmation you are an owner of a
D> previous
| >>> D> Windows
| >>> | D>> OS,
| >>> | | >>> | > you insert the 98 or 95 CD and it will verify it, then
| PRH>> continue
| >>> D> the
| >>> | D>> 98SE
| >>> | | >>> | > install as if the CD was the full install version.
| >>> | | >>> | >
| >>> | | >>> | > I have not tried this with a XP upgrade CD so I am not sure
| PRH>> that
| >>> D> it
| >>> | D>> will
| >>> | | >>> | > work. I seem to recall doing it with a Win 2000 upgrade CD
D> | and
| PRH>> it
| >>> | | >>> | > worked.
| >>> | | >>> | >
| >>> | | >>> | >
| >>> | | >>> | >
| >>> | | >>> | >
| >>> | | >>> | > Gary McCartney
| >>> | | >>> | >
| >>> | | >>> | > McCartney Electronics
| >>> | | >>> | > Guelph Ontario Canada
| >>> | | >>> | > Est. 1984
| >>> | | >>> | > email: gary (at) number63.ca
| >>> | | >>> | >
| >>> | | >>> | >
| >>> | | >>> | >
| >>> | | >>> | >
| >>> | | >>> | >
| >>> | | >>> | >
| >>> | | >>> | >
| >>> | | >>> | > Technotronic Dimensions wrote:
| >>> | | >>> | >
| >>> | | >>> | >>Indeed True.
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >>However, Upgrade installs usually have some kind of
| PRH>> irreperable
| >>> | D>> issues
| >>> | | >>> later
| >>> | | >>> | >>because of it not being a clean Install.
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >>It Parallels the Concept of using Cheap Generic Repair
D> Parts
| PRH>> over
| >>> | | >>> Original
| >>> | | >>> | >>Parts. You get what you pay for.
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >>Steve Hearns
| >>> | | >>> | >>Technotronic Dimensions, NY [USA]
| >>> | | >>> | >>WWW.TECHNOTRONIC-DIMENSIONS.COM
| >>> | | >>> | >>1-877-817-9885 (Voice / Fax Toll Free - US Only)
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >>----- Original Message -----
| >>> | | >>> | >>From: "becyn" <becyn@xxxxxxxxxx>
| >>> | | >>> | >>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| >>> | | >>> | >>Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 5:20 PM
| >>> | | >>> | >>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >>The upgrade version of both XP and XP is cheaper.
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >>Jim McVey
| >>> | | >>> | >>McVey Alltronix
| >>> | | >>> | >>327 Broadway
| >>> | | >>> | >>Newburgh Ny 12550
| >>> | | >>> | >>ph: 845 561 8383
| >>> | | >>> | >>fx: 845 561 9017
| >>> | | >>> | >>Consumer electronics &
| >>> | | >>> | >>computer service.
| >>> | | >>> | >>Factory authorized for
| >>> | | >>> | >>over twenty brands.
| >>> | | >>> | >>----- Original Message -----
| >>> | | >>> | >>From: "Tel-Tek Electronics" <teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
| >>> | | >>> | >>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| >>> | | >>> | >>Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 2:05 PM
| >>> | | >>> | >>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>$329 for XP Pro.
| >>> | | >>> | >>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>-Ed-
| >>> | | >>> | >>>Tel-Tek Electronics
| >>> | | >>> | >>>Ontario-Canada
| >>> | | >>> | >>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
| >>> | | >>> | >>>Ask me about the Tech Repair CD.
| >>> | | >>> | >>>----- Original Message -----
| >>> | | >>> | >>>From: "Jerome Silverman" <greentron@xxxxxxx>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 1:07 PM
| >>> | | >>> | >>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem
| >>> | | >>> | >>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>What do you consider overpriced? About a year ago I paid
D> | $79
| PRH>> US
| >>> D> on
| >>> | | >>> eBay.
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>Jerry Silverman
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>Greentron Inc
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>4 Newland Ave Greenville SC 29609
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>864 232 3889 Fax 271 2080
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>greentron@xxxxxxx
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>----- Original Message -----
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>From: "Tel-Tek" <teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 8:40 AM
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>XP is very stable. But overpriced. Almost worth your
D> | effort
| >>> D> to,
| >>> | D>> if
| >>> | | >>> you
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>have
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>an obsolete computer, to buy a new one, with XP Home
| >>> D> installed.
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>-Ed-
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>Tel-Tek Electronics
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>Ontario-Canada
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>----- Original Message -----
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>From: "Kevin" <kevintv@xxxxxxx>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 10:20 PM
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Yes, I am still running 98.  I get that 'Illegal
| PRH>> operations'
| >>> | D>> message
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>every so often, but I just ignore it and the computer
| PRH>> keeps
| >>> | D>> working
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>fine.  I rarely get the BSOD.  Is XP 100% stable?
D> Other
| >>> D> people
| >>> | D>> have
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>complained about XP and tell me that if Windows 98 is
| PRH>> working
| >>> | D>> for me
| >>> | | >>> | >>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>to
| >>> | | >>> | >>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>just keep using it.  What do you think?
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Kevin Wilks
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Kevin's TV & Video Repair
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Penticton BC Canada
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>kevintv@xxxxxxx
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>-----Original Message-----
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
| PRH>> David
| >>> | D>> Lessard
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 12:21 PM
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Illegal operations? Are you still running 98 Kevin?
| PRH>> Upgrade
| >>> D> to
| >>> | D>> XP.
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >>No
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>more BSOD (blue screen of death). At least you can
D> close
| PRH>> down
| >>> D> a
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >>crash
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>application.
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>David Lessard
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>mr_fixit@xxxxxxxxxxxx
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>-----Original Message-----
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
| PRH>> Kevin
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 12:56 AM
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>I hate them because my computer is always doing illegal
| >>> | D>> operations
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >>and
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>will be shut down.
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>I hate them because I have high speed cable internet
D> and
D> | a
| PRH>> 1
| >>> D> gig
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >>CPU,
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>but sometimes when I connect to the internet it is like
D> I
| PRH>> am
| >>> | D>> back on
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>dial-up.
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Any more reasons?
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Kevin Wilks
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Kevin's TV & Video Repair
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Penticton BC Canada
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>kevintv@xxxxxxx
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>-----Original Message-----
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
| PRH>> David
| >>> | D>> Lessard
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 11:50 AM
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Kevin,
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Repeat after me...Computers are my friend...Computers
D> are
| PRH>> my
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>friend...everything should work just fine now...:-)
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>David Lessard
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Alexandria, Ontario
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>mr_fixit@xxxxxxxxxxxx
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>-----Original Message-----
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
| PRH>> Tel-Tek
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 12:43 AM
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Kevin;
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>If you hate them, they will know...and do all kinds of
D> | odd
| >>> | D>> things
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >>for
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>you.;-)
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>-Ed-
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Tel-Tek Electronics
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Ontario-Canada
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>----- Original Message -----
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>From: "Kevin" <kevintv@xxxxxxx>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 7:10 PM
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>I hate computers all the time!
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Kevin Wilks
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Kevin's TV & Video Repair
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Penticton BC Canada
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>kevintv@xxxxxxx
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>gulftech@xxxxxxxx
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 12:21 PM
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Jim,
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>I have done that.  That program is gone, but it came
D> | with
| >>> | D>> add-ons,
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>that
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>appear to be the problem.  I need to know what wcpsvsu
| PRH>> is.
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Sometimes, I hate computers!
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Ken Smith
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Gulf Technical Services
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>3034 Gulf Breeze Parkway
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Gulf Breeze, FL  32563
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>850-934-8324 (Voice) 850-932-0819 (Fax)
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 14:10:28 -0500 Jim Myers
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >><jr.myers@xxxxxxxxxxx>
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>writes:
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>Try uninstalling the time check program in windows
| PRH>> control
| >>> | D>> panel
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>add/remove programs.
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> |
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| >>> | D>> |
| >>> D> |
| >>>
D> |
>>>>>>>>*********************************************************************
D> | *
| PRH>> *
| >>> D> *
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>*
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>******************************************
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>Since 1972
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>Jim Myers
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>Telrad Electronics
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>Fort Wayne, Indiana
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>gulftech@xxxxxxxx wrote:
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>I somehow loaded a program I did not wish to do.  It
| PRH>> was
| >>> | D>> "Time
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>Check" or
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>something like that.  Since then, my computer has
D> been
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >>squirley.
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>I wish
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>I could be more specific, but to be more specific, I
| PRH>> would
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >>have
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>to
| >>> | | >>> | >>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>restart and then fool with things to get my selected
| >>> D> programs
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >>to
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>appear
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>on the bottom of the screen.  Sometimes, all the
D> icons
| PRH>> on
| >>> D> my
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>screen
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>disappear.
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>I am able to use the computer, but get the message
| >>> D> "wcpsvsu
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >>not
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>responding."  Can someone tell me what that is, and
D> a
| >>> D> remedy
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >>for
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>it?
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>TIA,
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>Ken Smith
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>Gulf Technical Services
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>3034 Gulf Breeze Parkway
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>Gulf Breeze, FL  32563
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>850-934-8324 (Voice) 850-932-0819 (Fax)
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> |
| >>>>________________________________________________________________
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno
| >>> D> SpeedBand!
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up
| PRH>> today!
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> |
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | D>> |
| >>> D> |
| >>>
D> |
>>>>>>>>>--------------------------------------------------------------------
D> | -
| PRH>> -
| >>> D> -
| >>> | D>> -
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>-
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>----
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>Lost Password:
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login
| PRH>> Problems?".
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>Email Archives:
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> |
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | D>> |
| >>> D> |
| >>>
D> |
>>>>>>>>>--------------------------------------------------------------------
D> | -
| PRH>> -
| >>> D> -
| >>> | D>> -
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>-
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>----
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>Lost Password:
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login
| PRH>> Problems?".
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>Email Archives:
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> |
| >>> |
| >>>>>>>>>>>________________________________________________________________
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno
| >>> D> SpeedBand!
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up
D> | today!
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>
| >>> | | >>> |
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | D>> |
| >>> D> |
| >>>
D> |
>>>>>>>>>--------------------------------------------------------------------
D> | -
| PRH>> -
| >>> D> -
| >>> | D>> -
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>-----
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Lost Password:
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login
D> | Problems?".
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Email Archives:
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>
| >>> | | >>> |
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | D>> |
| >>> D> |
| >>>
D> |
>>>>>>>>>--------------------------------------------------------------------
D> | -
| PRH>> -
| >>> D> -
| >>> | D>> -
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>--
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>---
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Lost Password:
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login
D> | Problems?".
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Email Archives:
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> |
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | D>> |
| >>> D> |
| >>>
D> |
>>>>>>>>>--------------------------------------------------------------------
D> | -
| PRH>> -
| >>> D> -
| >>> | D>> -
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>-----
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Lost Password:
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login
D> Problems?".
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Email Archives:
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>
| >>> | | >>> |
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | D>> |
| >>> D> |
| >>>
D> |
>>>>>>>>>--------------------------------------------------------------------
D> | -
| PRH>> -
| >>> D> -
| >>> | D>> -
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>-----
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Lost Password:
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login
D> Problems?".
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Email Archives:
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>
| >>> | | >>> |
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | D>> |
| >>> D> |
| >>>
D> |
>>>>>>>>>--------------------------------------------------------------------
D> | -
| PRH>> -
| >>> D> -
| >>> | D>> -
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>-----
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Lost Password:
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login
D> Problems?".
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Email Archives:
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>
| >>> | | >>> |
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | D>> |
| >>> D> |
| >>>
D> |
>>>>>>>>>--------------------------------------------------------------------
D> | -
| PRH>> -
| >>> D> -
| >>> | D>> -
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>-----
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Lost Password:
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login
D> Problems?".
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Email Archives:
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>
| >>> | | >>> |
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | D>> |
| >>> D> |
| >>>
D> |
>>>>>>>>---------------------------------------------------------------------
D> | -
| PRH>> -
| >>> D> -
| >>> | D>> -
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | | >>> -
| >>> | | >>> | >>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>---
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Lost Password:
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login
D> Problems?".
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Email Archives:
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>
| >>> | | >>> |
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | D>> |
| >>> D> |
| >>>
D> |
>>>>>>>>---------------------------------------------------------------------
D> | -
| PRH>> -
| >>> D> -
| >>> | D>> -
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | | >>> -
| >>> | | >>> | >>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>---
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>Lost Password:
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login
D> Problems?".
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>Email Archives:
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>
| >>> | | >>> |
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | D>> |
| >>> D> |
| >>>
D> |
>>>>>>>>---------------------------------------------------------------------
D> | -
| PRH>> -
| >>> D> -
| >>> | D>> -
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | | >>> -
| >>> | | >>> | >>>---
| >>> | | >>> | >>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>Lost Password:
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login Problems?".
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>Email Archives:
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>
| >>> | | >>> |
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | D>> |
| >>> D> |
| >>>
D> |
>>>>>>>>---------------------------------------------------------------------
D> | -
| PRH>> -
| >>> D> -
| >>> | D>> -
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | | >>> -
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >>---
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>Lost Password:
| >>> | | >>> | >>>http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login Problems?".
| >>> | | >>> | >>>Email Archives:
| >>> | | >>> | >>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> |
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | D>> |
| >>> D> |
| >>>
D> |
>>>>>>>----------------------------------------------------------------------
D> | -
| PRH>> -
| >>> D> -
| >>> | D>> -
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | | >>> --
| >>> | | >>> | >>-
| >>> | | >>> | >>Lost Password:
| >>> | | >>> | >>http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login Problems?".
| >>> | | >>> | >>Email Archives:
| >>> | | >>> | >>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> |
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | D>> |
| >>> D> |
| >>>
D> |
>>>>>>>----------------------------------------------------------------------
D> | -
| PRH>> -
| >>> D> -
| >>> | D>> -
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | | >>> ---
| >>> | | >>> | >>Lost Password:
| >>> | | >>> | >>http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login Problems?".
| >>> | | >>> | >>Email Archives:
| >>> | | >>> | >>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
| >>> | | >>> | >
| >>> | | >>> | >
| >>> | | >>> | > --
| >>> | | >>> | >
| >>> | | >>> | >
| >>> | | >>> |
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | D>> |
| >>> D> |
| >>>
D> |
>>>>>>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
D> | -
| PRH>> -
| >>> D> -
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | | >>> ---
| >>> | | >>> | > Lost Password:
| >>> | | >>> | > http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login Problems?".
| >>> | | >>> | > Email Archives:
| >>> | | >>> | > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
| >>> | | >>> | >
| >>> | | >>> |
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | D>>
| >>> D>
| PRH>>
D> |
D> | --------------------------------------------------------------------------
| >>> | | >>> ---
| >>> | | >>> | Lost Password:
| >>> | | >>> | http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login Problems?".
| >>> | | >>> | Email Archives:
| >>> | | >>> | //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
| >>> | | >>> |
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | D>> |
| >>> D> |
| >>>
D> |
>>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
D> | -
| PRH>> -
| >>> D> -
| >>> | D>> ---
| >>> | | >>> Lost Password:
| >>> | | >>> http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login Problems?".
| >>> | | >>> Email Archives:
| >>> | | >>> //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | D>> |
| >>> | D>>
| >>> D>
| PRH>>
D> |
D> | --------------------------------------------------------------------------
| >>> | D>> ---
| >>> | D>> | Lost Password:
| >>> | D>> | http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login Problems?".
| >>> | D>> | Email Archives:
| >>> | D>> | //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
| >>> | D>> |
| >>> D> |
| >>> D> |
| >>> D> |
| >>>
D> |
D>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
D> | -
| PRH>> -
| >>> D> ----
| >>> | D>> Lost Password:
| >>> | D>> http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login Problems?".
| >>> | D>> Email Archives:
| >>> | D>> //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
| >>> D> |
| >>> D> |
| >>> D>
| PRH>>
D> |
D> | --------------------------------------------------------------------------
| >>> D> ---
| >>> D> | Lost Password:
| >>> D> | http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login Problems?".
| >>> D> | Email Archives:
| >>> D> | //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
| >>> D> |
| >>>
| >>>
| >>>
D> |
D>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
D> | -
| PRH>> ----
| >>> D> Lost Password:
| >>> D> http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login Problems?".
| >>> D> Email Archives:
| >>> D> //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
| >>>
| >>>
D> |
>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
D> | -
| PRH>> ---
| >>> Lost Password:
| >>> http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login Problems?".
| >>> Email Archives:
| >>> //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
| >>>
| >>>
D> |
D> |
D> |
PRH>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
D> | ------
| PRH>> Lost Password:
| PRH>> http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login Problems?".
| PRH>> Email Archives:
| PRH>> //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
D> |
D> |
D> | --------------------------------------------------------------------------
D> --
D> | -
D> | Lost Password:
D> | http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login Problems?".
D> | Email Archives:
D> | //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
D> |
D> |
D> | --------------------------------------------------------------------------
D> ---
D> | Lost Password:
D> | http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login Problems?".
D> | Email Archives:
D> | //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
D> |


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