[TCUG] Re: Puffin Crossings - Costs
- From: "Wallis, Ian" <Ian.Wallis@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "'tcug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <tcug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 10:03:33 +0100
The breakdown here in Derby is:
Anti skid surfacing 2.1k
Civils works 4.5k (includes fully ducted system with a chamber at each pole
and one at the controller, kerbs, tactile paving etc, and installation of
poles, controller base and Haldo pillar as supplied by signals company)
Electricity supply .5k
BT (varies from site to site) averages .5k
Plus minor costs eg scrim testing etc
this gives a total civils cost in the region of 8k
Signals wise, cost of a 4 pole puffin with 4 pushbutton units and 2 red man/
green man indicators is 9.2k including 2 video kerbside detectors and 2
tactile knobs (and audibles).
So we have a total cost to install a puffin of around 17k plus design costs.
Hope this doesn't upset too many!
Ian Wallis
Signals Engineer - Derby City Council
-----Original Message-----
From: Howard Saffer [mailto:Howard.Saffer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 19 September 2002 09:45
To: 'tcug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [TCUG] Re: Puffin Crossings - Costs
Ian Wallis - What are the full installation costs - I assume the =A38k
doesn't include all the civils works and signal installation!
Dick Andrews - was that =A315k, =A331k (or =A3315k - as it appeared in =
the=20
version that I received from you!)
Regards
Howard Saffer
Sheffield City Council
-----Original Message-----
From: Wallis, Ian [mailto:Ian.Wallis@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 18 September 2002 16:47
To: 'tcug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [TCUG] Re: Puffin Crossings - Costs
With flush kerbs, tactile paving, antiskid surfacing, etc here in Derby
about =A38k civils costs but we do benefit from an unrealistically =
priced
contract.
Ian Wallis
Derby City Council
-----Original Message-----
From: Dick Andrews [mailto:RAndrews@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 18 September 2002 15:38
To: 'tcug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [TCUG] Re: Puffin Crossings - Costs
With flush kerbs, tactile paving, antiskid surfacing, etc - =3DA315k =
=3D
civils cost
Dick
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> From: Fell Paul [SMTP:Paul.Fell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: 18 September 2002 15:15
> To: tcug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [TCUG] Puffin Crossings - Costs
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> Here at Sheffield we are concerned about the very large amounts our =
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direct
> services people are charging us for the installation of puffin =3D
crossings
> and
> other traffic signals installations. We would be very grateful if you
> could
> let us know how much it would cost in your areas to install for =3D
example a
> four pole puffin crossing on a single carriageway.
> Thanks
> Paul Fell
> Sheffield City Council
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RE: [TCUG] Re: Puffin Crossings - Costs
With flush kerbs, tactile paving, antiskid surfacing, etc here in Derby
about=A38k civils costs but we do benefit from an unrealistically =
priced
contract.=20
Ian Wallis=20
Derby City Council=20
-----Original Message-----=20
From: Dick Andrews [mailto:RAndrews@xxxxxxxxxxxx[1]]=20
Sent: 18 September 2002 15:38=20
To: 'tcug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'=20
Subject: [TCUG] Re: Puffin Crossings - Costs=20
With flush kerbs, tactile paving, antiskid surfacing, etc - =3DA315k =
=3D=20
civils cost=20
Dick=20
>-----Original Message-----=20
>From: Fell Paul [SMTP:Paul.Fell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20
>Sent: 18 September 2002 15:15=20
>To: tcug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
>Subject: [TCUG] Puffin Crossings - Costs=20
>=3D20=20
>=3D20=20
>Here at Sheffield we are concerned about the very large amounts our =
=3D=20
direct=20
>services people are charging us for the installation of puffin =3D=20
crossings=20
>and=20
>other traffic signals installations. We would be very grateful if you=20
>could=20
>let us know how much it would cost in your areas to install for =3D=20
example a=20
>four pole puffin crossing on a single carriageway.=20
>Thanks=20
>Paul Fell=20
>Sheffield City Council=20
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be=20
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RE: [TCUG] Re: Puffin Crossings - Costs
The breakdown here in Derby is:
Anti skid surfacing 2.1k
Civils works 4.5k (includes fully ducted system with a chamber at each pole
and one at the controller, kerbs, tactile paving etc, and installation of
poles, controller base and Haldo pillar as supplied by signals company)
Electricity supply .5k
BT (varies from site to site) averages .5k
Plus minor costs eg scrim testing etc
this gives a total civils cost in the region of 8k
Signals wise, cost of a 4 pole puffin with 4 pushbutton units and 2 red man/
green man indicators is 9.2k including 2 video kerbside detectors and 2
tactile knobs (and audibles).
So we have a total cost to install a puffin of around 17k plus design costs.
Hope this doesn't upset too many!
Ian Wallis
Signals Engineer - Derby City Council
-----Original Message-----
From: Howard Saffer [mailto:Howard.Saffer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx[1]]
Sent: 19 September 2002 09:45
To: 'tcug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [TCUG] Re: Puffin Crossings - Costs
Ian Wallis - What are the full installation costs - I assume the =A38k
doesn't include all the civils works and signal installation!
Dick Andrews - was that =A315k, =A331k (or =A3315k - as it appeared in =
the=20
version that I received from you!)
Regards
Howard Saffer
Sheffield City Council
-----Original Message-----
From: Wallis, Ian [mailto:Ian.Wallis@xxxxxxxxxxxx[2]]
Sent: 18 September 2002 16:47
To: 'tcug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [TCUG] Re: Puffin Crossings - Costs
With flush kerbs, tactile paving, antiskid surfacing, etc here in Derby
about =A38k civils costs but we do benefit from an unrealistically =
priced
contract.
Ian Wallis
Derby City Council
-----Original Message-----
From: Dick Andrews [mailto:RAndrews@xxxxxxxxxxxx[3]]
Sent: 18 September 2002 15:38
To: 'tcug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [TCUG] Re: Puffin Crossings - Costs
With flush kerbs, tactile paving, antiskid surfacing, etc - =3DA315k =
=3D
civils cost
Dick
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Fell Paul [SMTP:Paul.Fell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>Sent: 18 September 2002 15:15
>To: tcug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [TCUG] Puffin Crossings - Costs
>=3D20
>=3D20
>Here at Sheffield we are concerned about the very large amounts our =
=3D
direct
>services people are charging us for the installation of puffin =3D
crossings
>and
>other traffic signals installations. We would be very grateful if you
>could
>let us know how much it would cost in your areas to install for =3D
example a
>four pole puffin crossing on a single carriageway.
>Thanks
>Paul Fell
>Sheffield City Council
>The information in this email is confidential. The contents may not =
=3D
be
>disclosed or used by anyone other than the addressee. If you are not =
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the
>addressee, please tell us by using the reply facility in your email
>software as soon as possible. Sheffield City Council cannot accept =
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RE: [TCUG] Re: Puffin Crossings - Costs
With flush kerbs, tactile paving, antiskid surfacing, etc here in Derby
about=A38k civils costs but we do benefit from an unrealistically =
priced
contract.=20
Ian Wallis=20
Derby City Council=20
-----Original Message-----=20
From: Dick Andrews [mailto:RAndrews@xxxxxxxxxxxx[6][1]]=20
Sent: 18 September 2002 15:38=20
To: 'tcug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'=20
Subject: [TCUG] Re: Puffin Crossings - Costs=20
With flush kerbs, tactile paving, antiskid surfacing, etc - =3DA315k =
=3D=20
civils cost=20
Dick=20
>-----Original Message-----=20
>From: Fell Paul [SMTP:Paul.Fell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20
>Sent: 18 September 2002 15:15=20
>To: tcug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
>Subject: [TCUG] Puffin Crossings - Costs=20
>=3D20=20
>=3D20=20
>Here at Sheffield we are concerned about the very large amounts our =
=3D=20
direct=20
>services people are charging us for the installation of puffin =3D=20
crossings=20
>and=20
>other traffic signals installations. We would be very grateful if you=20
>could=20
>let us know how much it would cost in your areas to install for =3D=20
example a=20
>four pole puffin crossing on a single carriageway.=20
>Thanks=20
>Paul Fell=20
>Sheffield City Council=20
>The information in this email is confidential. The contents may not =
=3D=20
be=20
>disclosed or used by anyone other than the addressee. If you are not =
=3D=20
the=20
>addressee, please tell us by using the reply facility in your email=20
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