[tcb] Re: rust rust rust and stuck bolts
- From: Brian Denning <i_am_cool_fred@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 07:44:17 -0500
i will probalby get out the baby sledge this afternoon and see if i can brake
them free.
guess they changed the shift coupler when they changed the body style, cause
the 66 had the round coupler too when we pulled it out yesterday. i'm so used
to seeing the other kind with the neoprene bushings, the roudn one is odd to me.
and i think my compressor doesn't output enough, which may be part of teh
problem
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 06:26:13 -0700
From: bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tcb] Re: rust rust rust and stuck bolts
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
My compressor puts out about 160psi and that's what I use. Also, Alan's
comment had something I sometimes use but didn't think about; give them a few
good whacks on the head with a substantial hammer, this sometimes jars rust
loose and helps the penetrating oil.
Have never put the tunnel case into split case frame on a bus. Samba has a
good thread on this I think. Have done it in a Type I and it is a simple bolt
in when using the solid mount.
As to the coupler; as far as I know the Type IIs are all the same; they use the
round type as in the earlier beetles.
-- On Sat, 8/22/09, Brian Denning <i_am_cool_fred@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: Brian Denning <i_am_cool_fred@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [tcb] Re: rust rust rust and stuck bolts
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Saturday, August 22, 2009, 7:00 AM
sammie, yes, it's the ones that hold the boxes to the springplates. guess maybe
i should borrow the F-I-L's compressor, perhaps mine just doesn't produce
enough psi??? i'm using an impact, that's the only thing i can think of that
would be causing problems per your recommendations, i soaked them in pb blaster
last night, and will all weekend till next week and try it again, these bolts
are the only thing keeping that transmission in my bus. and i get my big nut
today.
speaking of big nut, the shift coupler on the 58 was really really weird
looking, is there a different shift coupler on early splits than there is on
beetles and bays???? or is the little red coupler i'm thinking about a
universal job that will replace the original round funky looking one that is on
my 58?
and, for any of you that might of done this conversion (split case out big nut
tunnel trans in) is there anythinge else, besides grinding of the nose cone
ribs, adapter plate, and coupler that i need to watch out for???
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 21:57:25 -0700
From: redvan71@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tcb] Re: rust rust rust and stuck bolts
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
By coincidence the Sept issue of Popular Mechanics has an article titled
"What's on Your Shelf."
They interviewed Jamie Hyneman and Adam Savage of "Mythbusters" fame about
stuff they keep on their shelf for "special" automotive situations.
The product they recommended for seized bolts was "Kroil" by Kano Labs. Their
method from the article:
"...it will penetrate into and loosen up stuff you'd otherwise have to torch
apart. Spray the fasteners with Kroil daily for a week or two. Whack the part
with a ball-peen hammer everyday to set up some high-frequency vibrations to
pulverize the rust inside the joint. This stuff penetrates stuck parts better
than anything I've ever used, which makes the trip to the industrial supply
house worth it."
http://www.kanolabs.com/google/
I've never heard of Kroil (which isn't significant in my case) and it sounds a
little out there to me and almost like a "muffler bearing" or "hubcap gasket"
joke you'd pull on a newbie. Not sure I'd wait 2 weeks, either. They mention
other products they use - Marvel Mystery Oil, Loctite, Never-Seez, etc. and
their application explanations make sense.
I like Tim Allen's - I mean Sammie's - approach. "Impact wrench with high
PSI." - aka "More Power!"
Good luck!
From: Brian Denning <i_am_cool_fred@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 8:55:39 PM
Subject: [tcb] rust rust rust and stuck bolts
started pulling the split case transmission out of fred today. got a question
for you guys
any tips or tricks on betting rusted stuck bolts out???? mainly the ones in the
rgb's, they are stuck refusing to come out, even with an impact, what can i do
to get them out?
i coated them with pb blast, is that about it???? any other tips or tricks?
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