[tcb] Re: rust rust rust and stuck bolts

  • From: theresabuckner@xxxxxxx
  • To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 22:00:22 -0400

Sammie     I put a big nut trans into my 56 panel , all it required extra was 
the adapter I bought from ???   I forget .   It changes the front mount bolts 
.   Adapter can be built but not worth the worry to me .       Terry


-----Original Message-----
From: sammie smith <bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:26 am
Subject: [tcb] Re: rust rust rust and stuck bolts







My compressor puts out about 160psi and that's what I use.  Also, Alan's 
comment had something I sometimes use but didn't think about; give them a few 
good whacks on the head with a substantial hammer, this sometimes jars rust 
loose and helps the penetrating oil.  

 

Have never put the tunnel case into split case frame on a bus.  Samba has a 
good thread on this I think.  Have done it in a Type I and it is a simple bolt 
in when using the solid mount.  

 

As to the coupler; as far as I know the Type IIs are all the same; they use the 
round type as in the earlier beetles.

 

-- On Sat, 8/22/09, Brian Denning <i_am_cool_fred@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:



From: Brian Denning <i_am_cool_fred@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [tcb] Re: rust rust rust and stuck bolts
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Saturday, August 22, 2009, 7:00 AM


sammie, yes, it's the ones that hold the boxes to the springplates. guess maybe 
i should borrow the F-I-L's compressor, perhaps mine just doesn't produce 
enough=2
0psi??? i'm using an impact, that's the only thing i can think of that would be 
causing problems per your recommendations, i soaked them in pb blaster last 
night, and will all weekend till next week and try it again, these bolts are 
the only thing keeping that transmission in my bus. and i get my big nut today. 
 
 
speaking of big nut, the shift coupler on the 58 was really really weird 
looking, is there a different shift coupler on early splits than there is on 
beetles and bays???? or is the little red coupler i'm thinking about a 
universal job that will replace the original round funky looking one that is on 
my 58?
 
and, for any of you that might of done this conversion (split case out big nut 
tunnel trans in) is there anythinge else, besides grinding of the nose cone 
ribs, adapter plate, and coupler that i need to watch out for???
 
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 21:57:25 -0700
From: redvan71@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tcb] Re: rust rust rust and stuck bolts
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx



By coincidence the Sept issue of Popular Mechanics has an article titled 
"What's on Your Shelf."

They interviewed Jamie Hyneman and Adam Savage of "Mythbusters" fame about 
stuff they keep on their shelf for "special" automotive situations.

The product they recommended for seized bolts was "Kroil" by Kano Labs.  Their 
method from the article:

"...it will penetrate into and loosen up stuff you'd otherwise have to torch 
apart. Spray the fasteners with Kroil daily for a week or two. Whack=2
0the part with a ball-peen hammer everyday to set up some high-frequency 
vibrations to pulverize the rust inside the joint.  This stuff penetrates stuck 
parts better than anything I've ever used, which makes the trip to the 
industrial supply house worth it."

http://www.kanolabs.com/google/

I've never heard of Kroil (which isn't significant in my case) and it sounds a 
little out there to me and almost like a "muffler bearing" or "hubcap gasket" 
joke you'd pull on a newbie. Not sure I'd wait 2 weeks, either. They mention 
other products they use - Marvel Mystery Oil, Loctite, Never-Seez, etc. and 
their application explanations make sense.



I like Tim Allen's - I mean Sammie's - approach.  "Impact wrench with high 
PSI." - aka "More Power!"

Good luck!


From: Brian Denning <i_am_cool_fred@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 8:55:39 PM
Subject: [tcb] rust rust rust and stuck bolts

started pulling the split case transmission out of fred today. got a question 
for you guys
 
any tips or tricks on betting rusted stuck bolts out???? mainly the ones in the 
rgb's, they are stuck refusing to come out, even with an impact, what can i do 
to get them out?
 
i coated them with pb blast, is that about it???? any other tips or tricks?

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