[tcb] Re: Insult to injury... official figures

  • From: Eric Woodall <eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:34:01 -0500

Austin has a ton of VW love!

atx wrote:
> Well there seem to be quite a few Vdubs of all eras here in Austin. I
> see aircooleds everyday,  mostly bays and bugs/beetles.  I just saw a
> rabbit truck, and it was in great shape.  Yellow with no visible rust.
>
> Jeff
>
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>
>
> On Aug 21, 2009, at 11:49 AM, "Will" <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>
>> I don't know about that. I recall having 5 Rabbits in the 90s.  One
>> or two at a time that ran and the others for parts.
>>
>>
>>
>> So does 5 make a collection?
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> -- Sent from my Palm Pre
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> sammie smith wrote:
>>
>> Well how many old Hondas and Toyotas do you see?  Those 70s 80s
>> "economy" cars will probably never be collectible and will never have
>> the status of the aircooled VW.
>>
>> --- On *Fri, 8/21/09, w.wood /<evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>>/* wrote:
>>
>>
>>     From: w.wood <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx
>>     <mailto:evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>     Subject: [tcb] Re: Insult to injury... official figures
>>     To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>     Date: Friday, August 21, 2009, 10:45 AM
>>
>>     Wow, my Eurovans did better than that.  I can honestly say I've
>>     never owned a Vanagon.  I would like a Doka Synchro but that's
>>     about as far as I'd go with it.  Regrettably we'll lose and
>>     continue to lose more Vanagons and Bays and Splits because of
>>     neglect and nuisance laws more than the CARS program promotes. 
>>
>>     What's strange is...
>>
>>     Do you ever see any Dashers?  Sciroccos? Rabbits (except cabriolets)?
>>
>>     It seems like a lot of the A1 and A2 series just disappeared. 
>>     Maybe it was that Pennsylvanian Sheet Metal?  I have to believe
>>     that a Rabbit may be more rare than a split bus. 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 10:40 AM, a riggs <redvan71@xxxxxxxxx
>>     <mailto:redvan71@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>
>>         Will is right.  More folks need to check their facts before
>>         saying something...
>>
>>         Per the feds "official" mileage figures, it's 15 mpg for a
>>         '91 Vanagon with auto and 2WD. 4 speed manual is 17 mpg. It
>>         was 15/16 in '84 - the oldest year eligible - and was as low
>>         as 14/15 in 1986. Synchros in '86 also got 14.  Best I've
>>         ever done was 16 or so but I'm no hypermiler.
>>
>>         Read 'em weep:
>>
>>         http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/CarsResult1.jsp?column=1&id=8422
>>         <http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/CarsResult1.jsp?column=1&id=8422>
>>
>>         I hope we don't lose any Vanagons to this program, but feel
>>         sure we will.
>>
>>         (Personally, I think Denis is just jealous that HE didn't get
>>         a letter for Murray...
>>         But as penance for my political misstep I will be hosting
>>         the "cum-by-ya" sing-a-long at T@P6.  If Denis will co-host
>>         with me...)
>>
>>         Allan
>>
>>
>>
>>         ----- Original Message ----
>>         From: Mike Hayes <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>         To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>         Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 6:46:10 PM
>>         Subject: [tcb] Re: Insult to injury...
>>
>>         It don't matter what it gets it matters what the est mpg when
>>         it was new..
>>
>>         Edward Maikranz wrote:
>>         > Mine sure doesnt.
>>         > 87 with a 2.1 gets 17-19
>>         >
>>         > On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 5:19 PM, sammie smith
>>         > <bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>         <mailto:bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>         <mailto:bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>         <mailto:bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>
>>         > wrote:
>>         >
>>         >     Everyone is talking about the Vanagon qualifying for the
>>         CARS
>>         >     program.  How?  You have to have less than 18mpg
>>         combined mileage
>>         >     via EPA estimates.  Do those things not get 18mpg?
>>         >
>>         >     --- On *Thu, 8/20/09, a riggs /<redvan71@xxxxxxxxx
>>         <mailto:redvan71@xxxxxxxxx>
>>         >     <mailto:redvan71@xxxxxxxxx
>>         <mailto:redvan71@xxxxxxxxx>>>/* wrote:
>>         >
>>         >
>>         >         From: a riggs <redvan71@xxxxxxxxx
>>         <mailto:redvan71@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto:redvan71@xxxxxxxxx
>>         <mailto:redvan71@xxxxxxxxx>>>
>>         >
>>         >         Subject: [tcb] Re: Insult to injury...
>>         >         To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>         <mailto:tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>         >         Date: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 2:45 PM
>>         >
>>         >
>>         >         Gee, I thought Mr. Obama was my friend and since he
>>         knows
>>         >         what's best for me I guess I'll turn my Vanagon in.
>>          They told
>>         >         me it would to a happy place.  And this way your tax
>>         dollars
>>         >         can help me buy a new green pablum car and keep it
>>         full of gas
>>         >         and...
>>         >
>>         >         Thank you Obama.  Thank you Lady Bird.  Thank you FDR...
>>         >
>>         >         LIKE HELL!  They'll pry it from my cold dead hands!
>>          (Unless
>>         >         someone gives me some good ol' cash for it  ;-)  )
>>         >
>>         >
>>         >        
>>         
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>         >         *From:* w.wood <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx
>>         <mailto:evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>
>>         >         <mailto:evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx
>>         <mailto:evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>>>
>>         >         *To:* tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>         <mailto:tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>         >         *Sent:* Thursday, August 20, 2009 10:08:03 AM
>>         >         *Subject:* [tcb] Re: Insult to injury...
>>         >
>>         >         I blame Lady Bird Johnson...
>>         >
>>         >         She made getting rid of old cars popular with "Keep
>>         America
>>         >         Beautiful."  You remember with the fake indian?
>>          Iron Eyes
>>         >         Cody who was Italian.
>>         >
>>         >         Just like a government run program, full of
>>         mis-information
>>         >         and lies.
>>         >
>>         >         http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19732051/
>>         >
>>         >         http://www.snopes.com/movies/actors/ironeyes.asp
>>         >
>>         >
>>         >
>>         >         On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Edward Aragon
>>         >         <edwarda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:edwarda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>         >        
>>         <http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=edwarda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>         >         wrote:
>>         >
>>         >             I saw a early model Eurovan MV on the clunker lot at
>>         >             Premier Mazda wish I
>>         >             had a chance to get it. RIP our good friend....
>>         >
>>         >
>>         >
>>         >
>>         >              --Edward Aragon
>>         >
>>         >             -----Original Message-----
>>         >             From: tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>         <mailto:tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>         >            
>>         
>> <http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>         >             [mailto:tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>         <mailto:tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>         >            
>>         
>> <http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]On
>>         >             Behalf Of a riggs
>>         >             Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 8:36 AM
>>         >             To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>         >            
>>         <http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>         >             Subject: [tcb] Insult to injury...
>>         >
>>         >
>>         >             Got a letter from a car dealer  yesterday...
>>         >
>>         >             "Congratulations!  Your 1991 Volkswagen Vanagon
>>         qualifies
>>         >             for the Cash for
>>         >             Clunkers program..."
>>         >
>>         >             I wonder how many will be lost to this program...
>>         >
>>         >             Allan
>>         >             '71 panel - FOR SALE
>>         >             '91 Vanagon Carat - FOR SALE
>>         >             '71 Ghia coupe
>>         >
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