[tcb] Re: Insult to injury... official figures

  • From: Eric Woodall <eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:33:12 -0500

I think Andrew Barnes in OK has two of these.
Not sure in what state they are though.

sammie smith wrote:
> I would like to have a restored Rabbit diesel pick up rignt now if I
> could find one at a bargain.
>
> --- On *Fri, 8/21/09, Will /<evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>/* wrote:
>
>
>     From: Will <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>
>     Subject: [tcb] Re: Insult to injury... official figures
>     To: "tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>     Date: Friday, August 21, 2009, 3:00 PM
>
>     The diesels were great!  
>
>
>     -- Sent from my Palm Pre
>
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     Neil wrote:
>
>     No, just a lot of crappy cars. I've owned 4 or 5 over the years.
>     Then I quit drinkin', sobered up and have never owned a Rabbit since.
>
>     --- On Fri, 8/21/09, sammie smith <bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>     wrote:
>
>     > From: sammie smith <bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>     > Subject: [tcb] Re: Insult to injury... official figures
>     > To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>     > Date: Friday, August 21, 2009, 2:02 PM
>     > Is
>     > that called a "hutch" or a "gaggle?"
>     >
>     > --- On Fri, 8/21/09, Will
>     > <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>     >
>     >
>     > From: Will <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>
>     > Subject: [tcb] Re: Insult to injury... official figures
>     > To: "tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"
>     > <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>     > Date: Friday, August 21, 2009, 11:49 AM
>     >
>     >
>     > I don't
>     > know about that. I recall having 5 Rabbits in the 90s.
>     >  One or two at a time that ran and the others for
>     > parts.
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > So does 5 make a collection?
>     >
>     > :-)
>     >
>     >
>     > -- Sent from my Palm Pre
>     >
>     >
>     > sammie smith wrote:
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > Well how many old Hondas and Toyotas do
>     > you see?  Those 70s 80s "economy" cars will
>     > probably never be collectible and will never have the status
>     > of the aircooled VW.
>     >
>     > --- On Fri, 8/21/09, w.wood
>     > <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>     >
>     >
>     > From: w.wood <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>
>     > Subject: [tcb] Re: Insult to injury... official figures
>     > To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>     > Date: Friday, August 21, 2009, 10:45 AM
>     >
>     >
>     > Wow, my Eurovans did better than
>     > that.  I can honestly say I've never owned a
>     > Vanagon.  I would like a Doka Synchro but that's
>     > about as far as I'd go with it.  Regrettably
>     > we'll lose and continue to lose more Vanagons and Bays
>     > and Splits because of neglect and nuisance laws more than
>     > the CARS program promotes. 
>     >
>     > What's strange is...
>     >
>     > Do you ever see any Dashers?  Sciroccos? Rabbits
>     > (except cabriolets)?
>     >
>     > It seems like a lot of the A1 and A2 series just
>     > disappeared.  Maybe it was that Pennsylvanian Sheet
>     > Metal?  I have to believe that a Rabbit may be more
>     > rare than a split bus. 
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 10:40 AM,
>     > a riggs <redvan71@xxxxxxxxx>
>     > wrote:
>     >
>     > Will is
>     > right.  More folks need to check their facts before
>     > saying something...
>     >
>     > Per the feds "official" mileage figures, it's
>     > 15 mpg for a '91 Vanagon with auto and 2WD. 4 speed
>     > manual is 17 mpg. It was 15/16 in '84 - the oldest year
>     > eligible - and was as low as 14/15 in 1986. Synchros in
>     > '86 also got 14.  Best I've ever done was 16 or
>     > so but I'm no hypermiler.
>     >
>     > Read 'em weep:
>     >
>     > http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/CarsResult1.jsp?column=1&id=8422
>     >
>     > I hope we don't lose any Vanagons to this program, but
>     > feel sure we will.
>     >
>     > (Personally, I think Denis is just jealous that HE
>     > didn't get a letter for Murray...
>     > But as penance for my political misstep I will be hosting
>     > the "cum-by-ya"
>     > sing-a-long at T@P6.  If Denis will co-host with
>     > me...)
>     >
>     > Allan
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > ----- Original Message ----
>     > From: Mike Hayes <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>     > To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>     > Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 6:46:10 PM
>     > Subject: [tcb] Re: Insult to injury...
>     >
>     > It don't matter what it gets it matters what the est
>     > mpg when it was new..
>     >
>     > Edward Maikranz wrote:
>     > > Mine sure doesnt.
>     > > 87 with a 2.1 gets 17-19
>     > >
>     > > On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 5:19 PM, sammie smith
>     > > <bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>     > <mailto:bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>     > > wrote:
>     > >
>     > >     Everyone is talking about the Vanagon
>     > qualifying for the CARS
>     > >     program.  How?  You have to
>     > have less than 18mpg combined mileage
>     > >     via EPA estimates.  Do those things
>     > not get 18mpg?
>     > >
>     > >     --- On *Thu, 8/20/09, a riggs /<redvan71@xxxxxxxxx
>     > >     <mailto:redvan71@xxxxxxxxx>>/*
>     > wrote:
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >         From: a riggs <redvan71@xxxxxxxxx
>     > <mailto:redvan71@xxxxxxxxx>>
>     > >
>     > >         Subject: [tcb] Re: Insult
>     > to injury...
>     > >         To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>     > <mailto:tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>     > >         Date: Thursday, August 20,
>     > 2009, 2:45 PM
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >         Gee, I thought Mr. Obama
>     > was my friend and since he knows
>     > >         what's best for me I
>     > guess I'll turn my Vanagon in.  They told
>     > >         me it would to a happy
>     > place.  And this way your tax dollars
>     > >         can help me buy a new
>     > green
>     > pablum car and keep it full of gas
>     > >         and...
>     > >
>     > >         Thank you Obama.
>     >  Thank you Lady Bird.  Thank you FDR...
>     > >
>     > >         LIKE HELL!
>     >  They'll pry it from my cold dead hands!
>     >  (Unless
>     > >         someone gives me some good
>     > ol' cash for it  ;-)  )
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >        
>     > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>     > >         *From:* w.wood <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx
>     > >         <mailto:evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>>
>     > >         *To:*
>     > tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>     > <mailto:tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>     > >         *Sent:* Thursday, August
>     > 20, 2009 10:08:03 AM
>     > >         *Subject:* [tcb] Re:
>     > Insult to injury...
>     > >
>     > >         I blame Lady Bird
>     > Johnson...
>     > >
>     > >         She made getting rid of
>     > old cars popular with "Keep America
>     > >         Beautiful."  You
>     > remember with the fake indian?  Iron Eyes
>     > >         Cody who was Italian.
>     > >
>     > >         Just like a government run
>     > program, full of mis-information
>     > >         and lies.
>     > >
>     > >         http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19732051/
>     > >
>     > >         http://www.snopes.com/movies/actors/ironeyes.asp
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >         On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at
>     > 10:20 AM, Edward Aragon
>     > >         <edwarda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>     > >        
>     <http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=edwarda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>     > >         wrote:
>     > >
>     > >             I saw a
>     > early model Eurovan MV on the clunker lot at
>     > >  
>     >           Premier Mazda wish I
>     > >             had a chance
>     > to get it. RIP our good friend....
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >            
>     >  --Edward Aragon
>     > >
>     > >            
>     > -----Original Message-----
>     > >             From: tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>     > >            
>     <http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>     > >             [mailto:tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>     > >            
>     <http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]On
>
>     > >             Behalf Of a
>     > riggs
>     > >             Sent:
>     > Thursday, August 20, 2009 8:36 AM
>     > >             To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>     > >            
>     <http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>     > >             Subject:
>     > [tcb] Insult to injury...
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >    
>     >         Got a letter from a car dealer
>     >  yesterday...
>     > >
>     > >            
>     > "Congratulations!  Your 1991 Volkswagen Vanagon
>     > qualifies
>     > >             for the Cash
>     > for
>     > >             Clunkers
>     > program..."
>     > >
>     > >             I wonder how
>     > many will be lost to this program...
>     > >
>     > >             Allan
>     > >             '71
>     > panel - FOR SALE
>     > >             '91
>     > Vanagon Carat - FOR SALE
>     > >             '71 Ghia
>     > coupe
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >
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