[tcb] Re: Insult to injury... official figures

  • From: "Will" <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:11:52 -0500

The Yugo was worse.


-- Sent from my Palm Pre
sammie smith wrote:

The Italians, French and English all tried to outdo each other on which could 
build the absolute worst car in the world.  They were successful til the Rabbit 
came along.

--- On Fri, 8/21/09, Neil &lt;nbmdude@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:


From: Neil &lt;nbmdude@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [tcb] Re: Insult to injury... official figures
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Friday, August 21, 2009, 3:20 PM


Mine were all gas...sad thing was, those three weeks or so they ran, they were 
GREAT...kinda like a Fiat X19 I owned for a short while.  Run like a bat outta 
hell WHEN it ran....Damned electrical issues once again...

--- On Fri, 8/21/09, Will &lt;evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> From: Will &lt;evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [tcb] Re: Insult to injury... official figures
> To: "tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" &lt;tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Friday, August 21, 2009, 3:00 PM
> The diesels were
> great!  
> 
> 
> -- Sent from my
> Palm Pre
> Neil wrote:
> 
> No, just a lot of crappy cars.   I've owned 4 or 5 over
> the years.  Then I quit drinkin', sobered up and have
> never owned a Rabbit since.
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Fri, 8/21/09, sammie smith
> &lt;bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > From: sammie smith
> &lt;bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> > Subject: [tcb] Re: Insult
 to injury... official
> figures
> 
> > To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> > Date: Friday, August 21, 2009, 2:02 PM
> 
> > Is
> 
> > that called a "hutch" or a
> "gaggle?"
> 
> > 
> 
> > --- On Fri, 8/21/09, Will
> 
> > &lt;evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > From: Will &lt;evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>
> 
> > Subject: [tcb] Re: Insult to injury... official
> figures
>
 
> > To: "tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"
> 
> > &lt;tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> > Date: Friday, August 21, 2009, 11:49 AM
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > I don't
> 
> > know about that. I recall having 5 Rabbits in the 90s.
> 
> >  One or two at a time that ran and the others for
> 
> > parts.
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > So does 5 make a collection?
> 
> > 
> 
> > :-)
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > -- Sent from my Palm Pre
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > sammie
 smith wrote:
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > Well how many old Hondas and Toyotas do
> 
> > you see?  Those 70s 80s "economy" cars will
> 
> > probably never be collectible and will never have the
> status
> 
> > of the aircooled VW.
> 
> > 
> 
> > --- On Fri, 8/21/09, w.wood
> 
> > &lt;evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > From: w.wood &lt;evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>
> 
> > Subject: [tcb] Re: Insult
 to injury... official
> figures
> 
> > To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> > Date: Friday, August 21, 2009, 10:45 AM
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > Wow, my Eurovans did better than
> 
> > that.  I can honestly say I've never owned a
> 
> > Vanagon.  I would like a Doka Synchro but that's
> 
> > about as far as I'd go with it.  Regrettably
> 
> > we'll lose and continue to lose more Vanagons and
> Bays
> 
> > and Splits because of neglect and nuisance laws more
> than
> 
> > the CARS program promotes.  
> 
> > 
> 
> > What's strange is...
> 
> > 
> 
> > Do you ever see any Dashers?  Sciroccos?
 Rabbits
> 
> > (except cabriolets)?
> 
> > 
> 
> > It seems like a lot of the A1 and A2 series just
> 
> > disappeared.  Maybe it was that Pennsylvanian Sheet
> 
> > Metal?  I have to believe that a Rabbit may be more
> 
> > rare than a split bus.  
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 10:40 AM,
> 
> > a riggs &lt;redvan71@xxxxxxxxx>
> 
> > wrote:
> 
> > 
> 
> > Will is
> 
> > right.  More folks need to check their facts before
> 
> > saying something...
> 
> > 
> 
> > Per the feds
 "official" mileage figures,
> it's
> 
> > 15 mpg for a '91 Vanagon with auto and 2WD. 4
> speed
> 
> > manual is 17 mpg. It was 15/16 in '84 - the oldest
> year
> 
> > eligible - and was as low as 14/15 in 1986. Synchros
> in
> 
> > '86 also got 14.  Best I've ever done was 16
> or
> 
> > so but I'm no hypermiler.
> 
> > 
> 
> > Read 'em weep:
> 
> > 
> 
> >
> http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/CarsResult1.jsp?column=1&amp;id=8422
> 
> > 
> 
> > I hope we don't lose any Vanagons to this program,
> but
> 
> > feel sure we will.
> 
> > 
> 
> > (Personally, I think Denis is just jealous that HE
> 
>
 > didn't get a letter for Murray...
> 
> > But as penance for my political misstep I will be
> hosting
> 
> > the "cum-by-ya"
> 
> >  sing-a-long at T@P6.  If Denis will co-host with
> 
> > me...)
> 
> > 
> 
> > Allan
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > ----- Original Message ----
> 
> > From: Mike Hayes &lt;mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> > To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> > Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 6:46:10 PM
> 
> > Subject: [tcb] Re: Insult to injury...
> 
> > 
> 
> > It don't matter
 what it gets it matters what the
> est
> 
> > mpg when it was new..
> 
> > 
> 
> > Edward Maikranz wrote:
> 
> > > Mine sure doesnt.
> 
> > > 87 with a 2.1 gets 17-19
> 
> > >
> 
> > > On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 5:19 PM, sammie smith
> 
> > > &lt;bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> > &lt;mailto:bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> 
> > > wrote:
> 
> > >
> 
> > >     Everyone is talking about the Vanagon
> 
> > qualifying for the CARS
> 
> > >
     program.  How?  You have to
> 
> > have less than 18mpg combined mileage
> 
> > >     via EPA estimates.  Do those things
> 
> > not get 18mpg?
> 
> > >
> 
> > >     --- On *Thu, 8/20/09, a riggs
> /&lt;redvan71@xxxxxxxxx
> 
> > >     &lt;mailto:redvan71@xxxxxxxxx>>/*
> 
> > wrote:
> 
> > >
> 
> > >
> 
> > >         From: a riggs &lt;redvan71@xxxxxxxxx
>
 
> > &lt;mailto:redvan71@xxxxxxxxx>>
> 
> > >
> 
> > >         Subject: [tcb] Re: Insult
> 
> > to injury...
> 
> > >         To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> > &lt;mailto:tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> > >         Date: Thursday, August 20,
> 
> > 2009, 2:45 PM
> 
> > >
> 
> > >
> 
> > >         Gee, I thought Mr. Obama
> 
> > was my friend and since he
 knows
> 
> > >         what's best for me I
> 
> > guess I'll turn my Vanagon in.  They told
> 
> > >         me it would to a happy
> 
> > place.  And this way your tax dollars
> 
> > >         can help me buy a new
> 
> > green
> 
> >  pablum car and keep it full of gas
> 
> > >         and...
> 
> > >
> 
> > >         Thank you Obama.
> 
> >  Thank you Lady Bird.  Thank you FDR...
> 
> > >
> 
> > >         LIKE HELL!
> 
> >  They'll pry it from my cold dead hands!
> 
> >  (Unless
> 
> > >         someone gives me
 some good
> 
> > ol' cash for it  ;-)  )
> 
> > >
> 
> > >
> 
> > >        
> 
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> > >         *From:* w.wood
> &lt;evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx
> 
> > >        
> &lt;mailto:evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>>
> 
> > >         *To:*
> 
> >  tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> > &lt;mailto:tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> > >         *Sent:* Thursday, August
> 
> > 20, 2009 10:08:03 AM
> 
> > >         *Subject:* [tcb] Re:
> 
> > Insult to injury...
> 
> > >
> 
> > >         I blame Lady Bird
> 
> > Johnson...
> 
> > >
> 
> > >         She made getting rid of
> 
> > old cars popular with "Keep America
> 
> > >         Beautiful."  You
> 
> > remember with the fake indian?  Iron Eyes
> 
> > >         Cody
 who was Italian.
> 
> > >
> 
> > >         Just like a government run
> 
> > program, full of mis-information
> 
> > >         and lies.
> 
> > >
> 
> > >         http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19732051/
> 
> > >
> 
> > >        
> http://www.snopes.com/movies/actors/ironeyes.asp
> 
> > >
> 
> > >
> 
> > >
> 
> > >         On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at
> 
> > 10:20 AM, Edward Aragon
> 
> > >         &lt;edwarda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> > >        
> &lt;http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=edwarda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> 
> > >         wrote:
> 
> > >
> 
> > >             I saw a
> 
> > early model Eurovan MV on the clunker lot at
> 
> > >  
> 
> >            Premier Mazda wish I
> 
> > >             had a chance
> 
> > to get it. RIP our good friend....
> 
> > >
> 
> > >
> 
> > >
> 
>
 > >
> 
> > >            
> 
> >  --Edward Aragon
> 
> > >
> 
> > >            
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> 
> > >             From: tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> > >            
> &lt;http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> > >            
> [mailto:tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> > >            
> &lt;http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]On
> 
> > >             Behalf Of a
> 
> > riggs
> 
> > >             Sent:
> 
> > Thursday, August 20, 2009 8:36 AM
> 
> > >             To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> > >            
> &lt;http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> > >             Subject:
> 
> > [tcb] Insult to injury...
> 
> > >
> 
> > >
> 
> > >    
> 
> >          Got a letter from a car dealer
> 
> >  yesterday...
> 
> > >
> 
> > >            
> 
> > "Congratulations!  Your 1991 Volkswagen Vanagon
> 
> > qualifies
> 
> > >             for the Cash
> 
> > for
> 
> > >             Clunkers
> 
> > program..."
> 
> > >
> 
> > >             I wonder
 how
> 
> > many will be lost to this program...
> 
> > >
> 
> > >             Allan
> 
> > >             '71
> 
> > panel - FOR SALE
> 
> > >             '91
> 
> > Vanagon Carat - FOR SALE
> 
> > >             '71 Ghia
> 
> > coupe
> 
> > >
> 
> > >
> 
> > >
> 
> > >
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> > >
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> > >
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> > >
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> > >
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> > >
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> > >
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