[tcb] Re: I found my hat

  • From: "Lonnie Bergman" <bergmanfamily@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 08:28:23 -0600

Running mid grade or premium octane fuel will give you two major benefits in
an air cooled motor. Because it burns slower:
1. It burns cooler = Lower combustion chamber temps.
2. More push on the combustion stroke = More torque.

The way most of us drive, it may not be very noticeable, but I'll take all I
can get.

-----Original Message-----
From: tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Sammie Smith
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 5:02 PM
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tcb] Re: I found my hat

Whew!  I didn't mean to start anything when I suggested that your mechanic 
would have a heart attack if you used less than premium fuel.  However, the 
"regular" now is no where near the octane rating that we had in leaded 
fuel.  The original VW engine was built to run on "regular" in the 50s, 
which if memory serves was around 90+ octane.  It obviously depends on how 
your engine is "built."  A dead stock engine with normal timing probably 
will run great on "regular."  Stock compression, depending on engine is 
low.  Example:  The last of the 36 hp engines the compression was 
6.6:1.  Most engines now built by mechanics to a reasonable compression 
ratio is probably somewhere between 7.5 and 8.5.  Ask your mechanic what he 
recommends for your engine after he has built it.  Lyle Cherry told me 
premium on the engine he built for my Baja with a compression of 
8.5:1.  Some other mechanics tell all of their customers to run only 
premium fuel in all of the VW aircooled engines they build.  I could name 
the mechanics but won't (but they are up there in the category of Lyle 
Cherry in my opinion).  Also, I don't trust the fuel you pump out of any 
pump now.  Occasionally I stop at a station and start to pump fuel and it 
has what I call the "turpentine" smell.  Smells just like turpentine and is 
the same odor you get out of a fuel tank in a salvage yard where gas has 
been sitting in the tank for a few years.  When this happens I stop pumping 
and go to another station.  You also have the problem of the mixtures they 
are putting in the fuels for EPA regs that varies by location.  For 
example:  In California they are running a 7% ethanol blend.  Given all of 
the variables and with the fuel mileage the VW gets, I'm gonna spend the 
little bit extra and put in premium fuel.  It costs $1,000 to $2,000 to 
build a good1600 long block.  And if you don't know what it costs to build 
an original 36 or 40 hp 1192cc, then you are in for a shock if you have to 
have one built.  Anyone priced a set of new 77mm jugs lately?  I'm not 
risking an engine for pennies saved on fuel.
Sammie


At 04:05 PM 12/7/2005, you wrote:
>   YO  Each load of fuel is a different octane , + or minus 5        Terry




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