There will be a test later. Since we don't have a Cliff, you'll have to take and review Denis notes. -- Sent from my Palm Pre j duncan wrote: I am still trying to figure out what this thread is about? ------------------------------------------------------------- . . .have someone wiggle the shifter. . . .get their juice from the hot side . . .sockets are very twitchy. . . .but it "feels big". . . .may have some laying around. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390706/direct/01/