[talks-uk] Re: When will Talks work with OVI Maps?
- From: Neil Barnfather - TalkNav <forums@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 15:27:44 +0000
Graham,
Do you know factually that Humanwear is releasing a FW update to the Breeze
that allows for point to point navigation from anywhere to anywhere? I've not
seen them advertise this fact yet and as far as I knew for now the Breeze is
only for routes that you've previously walked or entered.
In terms of competitive software to Geo, which as you rightly say only works on
Windows Mobile v6.5 and below, the software isn't that badly priced at £595
including MS, which if you already have a copy of this brings the cost of Geo
down to £505.
There are a good number of Windows Mobile v6.5 devices out there still, and
Microsoft have committed to servicing the product for a further year or more,
so hopefully this will cross over with the introduction of accessibility
features / applications for Windows Phone 7.
I agree that the ready availability of Windows Mobile v6.5 phones from carriers
has reduced notably, but they are still out there, and if not you can buy them
quite easily off line or second hand through eBay etc very cheaply. which could
make the cost of a Geo package very much in line with a Breeze solution. take
for example this HTC phone I have just seen on eBay for the purpose of this
posting, Windows Mobile v6.5, nearly new phone, mint condition, £60, add this
to £595 and you're at £655, for a fully accessible, top of the line blind GPS
product with all the bells and whistles.
With the £250 rebate from Access that many of us have in our pockets right now,
this isn't such a harsh investment.
Then the alternative, OVI Maps with MS support, good quality solution,
excellent maps, although this does lack the around you option.
I'd be very interested to see what GPS receiver Kapsys put into the Kapten+, as
the original choice for the Kapten was a Surf3 chipset, which are known to be
very poor for pedestrian use, and during various field trials in urban built up
areas we had significant issues with the original Kapten.
thanks.
Neil Barnfather
TalkNav
www.talknav.com
On 25 Nov 2010, at 13:47, Graham Page wrote:
HI Amie.
As far as the trekker is concerned, it currently does not calculate routes
other than between points of interest or favourites that the user has entered.
there is about to be a new software version released which will allow this to
happen. I know Humanware have not announced this yet but given the fact that
the full trekker is no longer produced as they cannot find a PDA that works
with it, this is a fairly understandable progression.
I know of course that Neil Barnfather needs to market his business but, with
the launch of Windows Mobile version 7 my question is how long will new phones
running windows mobile version 6.5 be produced for? Sadly Microsoft have done
a bad job with windows 7 for mobiles in that it is not accessible and all the
indications, including comments from Microsoft, suggest that accessibility of
the windows 7 mobile platform is at least 18 months away. So, Mobile Geo from
code factory is a good package. It works well and it could be a good solution
though buying it along with a windows mobile phone could be quite costly.
On to your question about what you get with devices like the Trekker Breeze or
Mobile Geo that you do not get with Ovi Maps or similar. Well, the standard
programs assume you can see where you are so you will not get information about
places of interest near you or a description of a large road junction. Instead
you may get a direction like turn left in 150 yards. I do not know whether or
not it is easy to get the name of the road you are on with OviMaps, but this
feature is probably generally of little use to sighted people most of the time
as of course they can read road signs.
Stuff is being developed for the IPhone as well though this is very desirable
as well and may put you in some danger of being mugged! I am also interested
in the Captain Plus that has been mentioned here. It will be interesting to
see what the price will be and how good a product it turns out to be.
Regards
Graham
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From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Amie Slavin
Sent: 25 November 2010 09:05
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: When will Talks work with OVI Maps?
Hi Walter
Any and all info on this topic much appreciated by me. I’m using Talks,
currently, and own a Trekker Pro’. Don’t get on with the Trekker at all
though; it’s way to hefty and cumbersome for me and too techie; too many
gadgets to carry; too tempting for muggers.
So, I@m looking for a cheap and effective sat’ nav’ solution. Pretty urgently
needing help with this question. Is anyone finding Trekker Breeze particularly
good? That’s at least a sat’ nav’ in just one box, isn’t it?
Thanks lots for any help.
A
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Walter
Sent: 24 November 2010 17:00
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: When will Talks work with OVI Maps?
Hi. Just out of interest. On one of my other lists some guy posted a review
of a GPS system he is besotted with. He used to use mobile Speak but doesn’t
any more as he thinks the system he has now is by far more accurate and
responsive. He is American and I’ve no idea if it is available here and in any
case, it isn’t for me as I now have a Trekker Pro. From what he says it uses
Google maps and uses something called “Walkie Talkie.” This is a female voice.
He takes a car trip from his home to a local restaurant and then back home. I
have the sound files here of his trip and if anyone wants to here it, I’ll
upload it to Send Space and send you the link, just let me know. I haven’t
listened to the entire thing so can’t give an honest opinion but I’m sure you
will come to your own conclusion. I also have another presentation with
demonstration in the field of an GPS app for the Iphone called navagon. I have
listened to this one in it’s entirety and thought it was very good. The guy
who does the presentation boght all the USA maps for only $45 and the Navagon
app is cheap also. If you want this one then let me know and I’ll upload it.
Walter.
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
Sent: 24 November 2010 16:28
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: When will Talks work with OVI Maps?
Chris,
perhaps, but the question is how long are you prepared to wait, a month, 6
months, a year, or longer? people who have Wayfinder Access need an option by
no later than the end of March 2011.
On 24 Nov 2010, at 15:27, chris hallsworth wrote:
Hi all.
Let's all try to be positive please. I have no doubts that if Code Factory can
get Ovi Maps to work, so can Nuance. It's just a matter of time. In fact I was
talking to someone at my housing association this morning working at the
sensory team. I told them that I would love to try GPS. This very topic came up
and I was just positive that Talks will come out with similar support in the
future. When it does I will sure upgrade both my phone and Talks so that I can
use Ovi Maps. As I say though, it's just a matter of time.
Take care.
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On 24/11/2010 15:03, All formats wrote:
> *Anyone know when Talks will work with OVI Maps?*
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> *Think a lot of people will migrate to Mobile Speak otherwise if Talks
> don't pull their finger out.*
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> *Just saying that people might consider the cost of switching worth
> while as you are getting a product that works on more than one platform
> and now, effectively, an alternative to WFA which will be switched off
> in March.*
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> *Personally, I'd rather stick with Talks if I can mainly because I think
> it is more responsive than Mobile Speak in terms of delay in response
> when pressing buttons experienced with mobile speak... and yes, I have
> knocked the delay down to 0.5 seconds and 0 seconds respectively.*
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> *But, you have to take Mobile Speak seriously now that OVI is working
> well with it and their publicity machine via Caroline is fantastic!*
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