That is interesting. I pay £35.00 to Vodafone on contract. For that I have 750 talk minutes to any network mobile, free landline calls and 250 texts, together with Internet Access unlimited. I was told if I were to reduce this, which I would be able to do at present, I would for £25.00 loose Internet, get 500 minutes and 100 text. Strange that with the same provider.
I lost my phone so when I made enquiries about unlocking the new one, as the old one was unlocked by vodafone who at the time charged £20.00, I was informed that Vodafone now unlock pones free of charge to people on contract.
Eleanor----- Original Message ----- From: "Darren Harris" <darren_g_harris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 11:15 AM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Wayfinder Access and mobile networks Yes voda are the way to go, up until I upgraded, I got 600 minutes, stop the clock, unlimited texts for 25 quid a month. Recently I took a tarrif only upgrade but instead of changing tarriff I've cut my price plan in half financially only. So now I have my internet package on there for £7.50 and vodafone family for £5, and am paying give or take the same price or slightly less than I was before and I have all that I have. If it wasn't for my contract, I would have looked at a sim only deal in all truth. Some of them sim only contracts are really worth while going for depending on the network of course. -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ibrahim Gucukoglu Sent: 24 April 2009 11:12 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Wayfinder Access and mobile networks Hi Mark. Well, the early days have been and gone mores the pity. Orange took wildfire offline and now their answering machine facility is less powerful too. My wife took out a pay as you go deal on Orange, because she was under the delusion that Orange were still the bright and charming company she'd used back when. All she got were sour pips, poor coverage and high prices for anything but texting which orange seem to consider a speciality. All the best, Ibrahim.----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Brett" <markbrett@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 9:58 AM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Wayfinder Access and mobile networks Yes the future was bright in the early days of orange. And we had plenty of good services from them as well. Shame they have got rid of most of them completely or only made them available to business customers. The equity points got all the christmass presents and wild fire and every phone were good services. The orange answer phone has some good features as well. I remember in the early days you could have a text package on your account for just £2.50. The trouble was i didnt know anyone at that time could send and receive them. How things have changed. Mark Brett This e-mail was produced on a Nokia N82 E-mail: markbrett@xxxxxxxxxx Home: 08712221267 Fax: 08704422678 SMS: 07962432222 Mobile: 08713159900 and 07092226226 -original message- Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Wayfinder Access and mobile networks From: "All formats" <allformats@xxxxxxxxx> Date: 24/04/2009 09:37 Neil. Fantastic information. I used to read a lot of the mobile magazines (sad git I know) and I had forgotten a lot of that stuff. Orange definitely had one of the best customer service models in the early days and that was one of the reasons as you say that they were as successful as they were. It wasn't just the high quality knowledge of any one you talked to in the company, it was all the additional stuff like being able to find out where their coverage roll out was happening and their being upfront about where the future developments were going to be. They also took the whole thing of branding, marketing and loyalty reward schemes to a whole new level to anything that was around at the time. I think they were the first to offer "caller ID" and they had that line 2 option so you could have a business and home number on the same phone. On the other hand, Vodafone had a presence way before the first truly mobile phones we see today with their two way radio service and I think that was somewhere in the 70s. So, they would have been more business focused by default really as it would have been businesses like fleet transport that would have used such a service. -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Neil Barnfather Sent: 23 April 2009 16:51 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Wayfinder Access and mobile networks Andy, Likely to do with the method of cell tower deployment, O2 or Cell net as they were along side Vodafone deployed originally in a grid style across the UK, thus network coverage is more widely spread and low coverage areas are less likely. Orange and One 2 One as they were now T-Mobile deployed in a radial fashion spurting out from town / city centres. This of course keeping costs down whilst offering the maximum coverage buy population. Have you ever seen the phrase 99.9% of the UK population covered, of course this term originally coined by T-Mobile / One 2 One in the early days, and later Orange. This of course misleading as it implies lots of coverage, but with vast amounts of the UK population being in cities / towns, it doesn't mean 99% of the UK which it could be mistaken to mean. 3 Have repeated Orange and T-Mobile's method, with even more distance, afforded to them by newer technology in cell towers. I rather suspect like Paul, that the reason more partners exist with T-Mobile is not due to their incredible network or customer services, but more the cost parameters they afford to those partner networks. O2 and Vodafone have long been the business users network's of choice, due to their overall network performance and reliability, supported of course by their higher plans and tariff charges, Orange / T-Mobile being more aimed at the consumer and bargain savvier home user. With 3 having all the teaming issues that One 2 One had all those years ago. Ask how many business users opt for 3 and you'll see my point. I think that Orange didn't suffer as much from the bad press as One 2 one did, as orange were innovators with their pioneering technology and features along side quality customer service staff. Hope that this helps in some way... PS, used to work for Nokia's network infrastructure / deployment division, so have a little knowledge on these things. Neil Barnfather WFA List Administrator Talks List Host TalkNav is a Nuance Accessibility and Wayfinder Access dealer / distributor, with product activation codes delivered direct to your mailbox why not use TalkNav today? http://www.talknav.com service@xxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of ANDY COLLINS Sent: 23 April 2009 09:51 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Wayfinder Access and mobile networks Don't want to start a best coverage debate, but I have found that T-Mobile have better coverage than Orange. What I'd like to know however, is why so many other people seem to have coverage on Cross Country and Virgin trains, when for me with T-Mobile [and it was as bad with Orange] I get hardly any! Is it anything to do with hand sets? Are non-Nokia phones more powerful when it comes to picking up connection? I'm guessing not, but can't figure out why I get such poor coverage while others phones are ringing out all the time! - Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "All formats" <allformats@xxxxxxxxx> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 9:29 AM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Wayfinder Access and mobile networks
It is ironic. Umm! Let's see now? Why don't we go with the UK service with the worst coverage we can which will entice our customers to stick with us...
Not!
When T-mobile were one2one, we used to call them one2none as no one could get coverage with them but, only had their handsets because the tariffs were so good. But, then, they had to be to attract people even though they would never be able to use their minutes but, then at
least, they could feel good about thinking they had a good deal. I don't like T-mobile! Not that anyone would have guessed. Cheers. Paul -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mark Brett Sent: 22 April 2009 17:59 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Wayfinder Access and mobile networks Yes they are using orange but part of that agreement is that they stop
using O2. What is even more ironic is that they are going to network share with T-Mobile. Mark Brett This e-mail was produced on a Nokia N82 E-mail: markbrett@xxxxxxxxxx Home: 08712221267 Fax: 08704422678 SMS: 07962432222 Mobile: 08713159900 and 07092226226 -original message- Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Wayfinder Access and mobile networks From: "All formats" <allformats@xxxxxxxxx> Date: 22/04/2009 15:09 I think three are tied in with Orange, but, not absolutely sure. -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mark Brett Sent: 22 April 2009 14:19 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Wayfinder Access and mobile networks People who are using the 3 network may not have coverage in some areas
because in september i think it is the deal they have with O2 comes to
an end. Mark Brett This e-mail was produced on a Nokia N82 E-mail: markbrett@xxxxxxxxxx Home: 08712221267 Fax: 08704422678 SMS: 07962432222 Mobile: 08713159900 and 07092226226 -original message- Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Wayfinder Access and mobile networks From: "Ibrahim Gucukoglu" <ibrahim_gucukoglu@xxxxxxxx> Date: 22/04/2009 13:16 Hi Andy. I'm not making any promises about whether you will or will not be charged. I've never been charged for WFA on payg, but then when I've been on contract which has been from June last year, I've always paid for an unlimited data plan. If you've an unlocked phone, by all means
pop in to a three store and pick up a payg sim or if you want L10 complementary credit you can buy the sim online. Either way, its not a major investment and you can trial three for yourself to see if it is free to use WFA. All the best, Ibrahim. ----- Original Message ----- From: "ANDY COLLINS" <Andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 12:49 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Wayfinder Access and mobile networksHi Ibrahim - Is this to say then, that one could have a PAYG or sim contract with three, and not get charged for moderate use of WFA? I would be interested if this were the case - Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ibrahim Gucukoglu" <ibrahim_gucukoglu@xxxxxxxx> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 11:58 AM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Wayfinder Access and mobile networksHi Saqib. The reason three don't charge you is because you use only small amounts of data daily. If you surf the open internet, download a large file etc you will be charged however three do realise that some smartphones connect to the internet for services as part of their setup but the data consumption is so small that they aren't too concerned. Wayfinder falls in to this catagory as its data use is comparitively small. If you are getting something for nothing, don't let on to three. I pay for my web access to the tune of L5 per month on my contract, however I do use it heavily downloading a lot of audio and video content however I've never gone over any limits. All the best, Ibrahim. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Saqib" <saqib500@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 11:04 AM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Wayfinder Access and mobile networksHi. Three don't block internet access and further more they don't chargeas I've never bin charged for any data. I had noticed the non charge of data a couple of months back. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Darren Harris" <darren_g_harris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 10:08 AM To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Wayfinder Access and mobile networksHi, I thought 3 was like that but am not quite sure any more because I've also herd that this is no longer the case. -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie Cairns Sent: 22 April 2009 10:07 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Wayfinder Access and mobile networks Could someone please clarify this for me fairly quickly, pretty please? (smile). My understanding is that one or two networks don't allow connection to the Wayfinder Access server on Pay-As-You-Go. Does anyone know comprehensively which networks don't allow or block it, and whether this is on contract or top-up? Any info appreciated. Jackie Cairns Braille Specialist Email: Jackie.Cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sight and Sound Technology Ltd Welton House North Wing Summerhouse Road Moulton Park Northampton NN3 6WD Telephone: 01604 798024 Fax: 01604 798090 Web: www.sightandsound.co.uk No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.2/2072 - Release Date: 04/21/09 16:48:00 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.2/2072 - Release Date: 04/21/09 16:48:00--- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090421-0, 21/04/2009 Tested on: 22/04/2009 12:31:24 avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com--- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090422-0, 22/04/2009 Tested on: 23/04/2009 09:39:06 avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com
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