Hi Ibrahim, I think we should be realistic here though, it is not really a solution for the blind in its current state. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ibrahim Gucukoglu Sent: Thursday 25 March 2010 09:41 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full interface description Hi Steve. Well, I was able to use Maps on a route from my home to the local chemist yesterday, however I get your point to a degree because you have to memorise which icon and sub icon you need. For instance to walk a route, you need to press the right arrow once, enter once then right arrow once to set destination and this all from the home screen while avoiding touching the touchscreen on N series devices. You could easily become disoriented if you'll pardon the pun *smile*. All the best, Ibrahim. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 9:04 AM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full interface description > Hi Scott, > > This is entirely my point. Saqib is coming at this from a low vision > user's > point of view, which is entirely different to that of a total. > > I still maintain that maps is pretty unusable if you have no sight. > > All the best > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Scott C > Sent: Wednesday 24 March 2010 11:33 > To: Talks List Talks List > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full interface description > > Thanks to sack for the pod cast on this. > > I have to say though the mane thing I noted from it is that non of the > things he went to on screen talked either before he prest on it or after > so > how can a blind person use it? > > From listening to this I don't think I could. > > Ta Scott. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Nutt - Email Address: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent On: 24/03/2010 09:08 > Sent To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Email Address: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full interface description > > Hi Eleanor, > > > > No, but then again, I didn't know about them until what I read on here. > > > > All the best > > > > Steve > > > > From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke > Sent: Monday 22 March 2010 22:21 > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full interface description > > > > Oh well Steve, Neil is holding up a flame of hope tonight re WFA. Maybe > the > Ovi Maps will not be necessary after all. that would be brill if Neil > does > come up with something. Are you involved in these Talks, too, if you will > pardon the pun, on the Talks list *smile*. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Steve Nutt <mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 9:21 PM > > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full interface description > > > > Hi Eleanor, > > > > I don't believe it. The icons don't talk, but even pressing on them gets > nothing, so Hussein, care to elaborate? I guess you have some useful > vision > too. > > > > All the best > > > > Steve > > > > From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke > Sent: Sunday 21 March 2010 20:45 > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full interface description > > > > That is interesting, I would have expected it to have made sense to Steve > then as Steve has a lot of experience with phones and technology in > general. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Hussein Patwa <mailto:talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 8:35 PM > > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full interface description > > > > Hi, > > > > I can confirm this. I commandeered an N86 today and even though I did not > use it for long, Sahib's description made sense to me when I had the thing > in front of me. > > > > _______________________________________ > > Have a pleasant day, > > > > Kind Regards and Best Wishes, > > > > Hussein. > > > > Hussein Patwa > > Tel: 0789 47 595 62 (UK) > > Tel: +44 (0)122 4433 954 (SIP) > > Twitter: www.twitter.com/hussein_patwa > > Skype: patwaspotterfan2 > > GoogleTalk: thewanderingwriter > > Web: www.patwanet.co.uk > > My Blog: http://patwaspotterfan.livejournal.com > > > > Find me on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=510013486 > > > > From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Ibrahim Gucukoglu > Sent: 21 March 2010 19:56 > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full interface description > > > > Hi Steve. > > > > Go to www.nokia.com/maps and download the 3.03 release of maps. Its not > available through the SW update feature on that phone, so you have to > download it manually. Install it and you'll be able to use the software > as > per the instructions Saqib has provided. > > > > All the best, Ibrahim. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Steve Nutt <mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 7:30 PM > > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full interface description > > > > Hi Saqib, > > > > This description is no help at all if you have an N86, since the submenus > are not being read out. > > > > It looks to me as if maps is completely inaccessible on the N86. > > > > The only bit that is accessible is when you press options, you get > Account, > Settings and Support. That is all I can get anyway. > > > > Thanks for a great effort, but it looks as though this won't work on some > of > the newer phones. > > > > All the best > > > > Steve > > > > From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Saqib > Sent: Friday 19 March 2010 17:56 > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [talks-uk] Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full interface description > > > > Nokia Ovi Maps 3.3 main menu description. > > > > This description is for the new Nokia Maps 3.3 main menu interface. > > > > Usually when you open the application you are greted with the main menu > which consists of 10 icons. There are two rows of 4 icons which are > displayed on the screen and a further 2 which can be seen at the bottom > left > of the screen. The display almost looks like a 4-4-2 formation. For those > who follow football will know what I'm relating to. > > > > When you first open the Ovi Maps 3.3 app the drive icon is highlighted. > The > drive icon is located on the left of the screen, second one down from the > top left icon. If you select this drive icon you will be presented with a > further 3 icons. The highlighter will be on the first of the 3 icons > presented which is on the left of the other two icons. The first icon is > called drive home in this submenu. Selecting this will prompt the app to > start navigation to your home location. > > > > The second icon in this sub menu is called Set Destination. Pressing > select > on this will bring up a accessible menu where you can select an option of > your choice. These choices consist of History, Favourites, Search and > finally From Map. The From Map is the 4th option. > > > > The third and final icon from this Drive submenu is called Map. If you > select this you will be shown a Map view of your current location. From > this > Map you can press select and you will then be presented with a accessible > menu. The first of these options is Show Details.This will give you > further > information in text so You will know exactly where you are currently > standing. For example a name of the road and the number of the property in > which you may be standing by. Second option is Share location. Third > option > is Save Place. 4th option is Send. I have now covered the drive section of > Ovi Maps 3.3. > > > > > > My Position Icon > > From the main icon screen remember when I pointed out that the highlighter > is stationed on the Drive icon in which I have described in detail above. > Above this icon is the My position icon which is situated on the top left > of > the screen. It's the first icon in the first row of icons. To get to this > you just arrow up once from the Drive icon. With in this map view you can > hit select to bring up an accessible menu. These consist of Show > Details,Share Location, Save Place and the final option in the list is > Send. > > > Find Places > > The Find Places icon is the second icon in from the top left next to the > My > Position Icon. Pressing select on this will bring up a search box. Once > you > type in your search you should be presented with a result of your search. > > > > Share Location > > The Share Location Icon is the third icon in the top ro after the Find > Places icon. You will have to create a Nokia account to take advantage of > this feature. > > > > Favourites > > The Favourites Icon is the 4th and last icon in the top row. This is on > the > right of the Share Location icon. Pressing select on this will bring up > the > Favourites menu. The options here are Sincronise with Ovi, Places, Routs > and > Create New Collection. > > > > Second row of 4 icons description > > The First option in this row of icons is the Drive option. I have > covered > this earlier on in this document. > > > > Walk > > The Walk option resides next door to the Drive icon. Selecting this option > will bring up a submenu of three icons. The first icon is Walk Home. This > will trigger the navigation mode and you will be ready to outtake your > journey on foot. Icon 2 is the Set Destination option. From heare you can > select an address from a previous history or favourites. There are also > options to search or select from map. As the map it self is inaccessible I > think this option is not applicable for the VI user. The final option in > the > Walk submenu is help. Sadly this is also inaccessible. > > > > Weather > > The Weather icon is the third icon in the second row and this is > inaccessible. > > > > Events > > The Events Icon is the final icon in the second row of four. This feature > is > also inacfcessible. > > > > Third row of 2 icons > > The third row which is the bottom row has two icons. Both are > inaccessible. > The first is called Loanly Plannet and the neighbouring icon is called > Michelin. > > > > I hope this description is a help to those who are using the application. > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature > database 4962 (20100321) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature > database 4962 (20100321) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature > database 4962 (20100321) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature > database 4962 (20100321) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature > database 4962 (20100321) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature > database 4966 (20100322) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature > database 4966 (20100322) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature > database 4969 (20100323) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature > database 4972 (20100324) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature > database 4972 (20100324) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4976 (20100326) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4976 (20100326) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com