[talks-uk] Re: Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full interface description
- From: "Saqib" <Saqib500@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 11:21:52 -0000
MessageHi Darren. A friend of mine has trialed this Capten device and he tells
me that it works very well and he can't figgure out why it's received negative
reviews.
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From: Darren Harris
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 10:59 AM
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full interface description
hi,
well as much as i want to see the WFA petition get somewhere and posatively, it
is a great product no matter how much people have spent on it, it would be a
shame to see it fall like this. equally, i also have to think about this from
my personal perspective as well. i am a gps user and as such i'm not going to
go without a gps. equally i'm not prepared to pay the stupid prices demanded by
the blindness world either. certainly not before i've looked at the
alternatives. right now as it stands i have time to look around as has already
been mentioned, we aren't going to lose wfa until sometime next year. so really
people we shouldn't be idle on this either. be active when it comes to the
petition yes and spread the word but equally don't rely on it as a form of
rescue either because that may not happen at all with all the will in the
world. sorry but i'm just being realistic here.
i've been reading up on other gps devices including the kapten from kapsys. now
before everybody jumps on the band waggan by saying this has already been
reviewed by mike may, well here's the point. he's not going to review it
posatively is he. for the simple reason that he has his own company to think
about so he's hardly likely to review it in a fair manner. think about it, he's
not likely to say that this is a wonderful device and that everybody should go
and purchase it when he's got the likes of the trekker to think about.
considering that the trekker is almost 10 times as expensive as the kapten is
he's going to try playing it down. so am going to get a propper look at it
myself. which as we speak i'm trying to organize this with my local adaptive
tech stockest who happens to sell it and who isn't too far from me either.
having been a power user of WFA for almost 2 years, i have a good idea as to
what i myself need from a gps unit so i can make a good comparison between the
2. the thing with the kapten is that it's been designed from the ground up to
be usable without a screen. which perfectly falls right within our level of
requirement. whether this be by accident or design doesn't matter the simple
fact is that it does. so my thinking here is that really people shouldn't be
taking the word of 1 man as absolute especially when said individual has his
own business interests to mind.
-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Hussein Patwa
Sent: 21 March 2010 10:40
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full interface description
Hi,
Very well put Ibrahim. Now that the news is known, it is time to look at
what to do about it constructively and then look to the future. At the end of
the day though, I believe this has to be the choice for the individual. Some
may feel it's not worth the hassle, but I would advocate that if one doesn't
try, one would never know.
I'd just like to see the dealer's response to your comments. Obviously this
will have an economic impact on them, so one could ask whether or not they
themselves would be considering an action against Wayfinder. It would depend
if they knowingly sold the licenses on knowing that their 'shelf life' as you
put it would be severely degraded. The fact that maps will be available for a
time to come is largely irrelevant. It's either the whole pie or none at all.
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Hussein.
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From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Ibrahim Gucukoglu
Sent: 21 March 2010 09:56
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full interface description
Hi.
I'd just like to add that it might be possible for those who bought the
product very recently to get a refund of their money or a significant portion
of their money back. If the product was purchased before the announcement of
its discontinuation was made public, it might be possible to argue that the
lifetime part of the contract can not be honoured. Furthermore, wayfinder
themselves stopped selling licenses for their entire product line late last
year anticipating this change, there by significantly undervalueing the access
licenses that distributors may have in ready stock. Distributors should be
thinking about compensating those customers who weren't aware that they were
purchasing a product which as it turns out has a very limited shelf life and to
which the customer would have had no knowledge of this before purchase.
All the best, Ibrahim.
----- Original Message -----
From: Hussein Patwa
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 9:32 AM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full interface description
Hi,
Whereas I completely understand where those of you that lost money are
coming from, this is a simple question of economics from the company's
perspective. It's just not viable to trade in an arena with such a relatively
small consumer base and where price sensitivity is high. On the plus side,
this is an area that is becoming of growing interest to all consumers, and by
that very nature will encourage innovation and change. Therefore, whereas it's
true that many products are not totally accessible to the visually impaired by
design at present, this is likely to change as the withdrawal of WFA will if
anything spur creativity and drive to 'fill the void' if you will.
Sorry, I'm not trying to fling aside the concerns over financial loss
suffered by existing customers, but I just wish people would look at the
situation from both sides of the fence. This is actually a positive
development if you take the time to look outside the box.
OK, that's my business insight shared for the day.
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Have a pleasant day,
Kind Regards and Best Wishes,
Hussein.
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From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Paul Cutress
Sent: 20 March 2010 21:08
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full interface description
that's all very well, but some of us like me, for example have only had my
WFA licence for about 2 months!, so when the product is discontinued, what
about all the money we have wasted! £240.00 is a lot of money just to thro
away, are many people more to the point going to be able to trust the market in
quite the same way? I ask you?, and how can we go main stream, when talks
doesn't work with the alternatives.
----- Original Message -----
From: Saqib
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 12:01 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full interface description
Hi Darren. Quite a number of us have not only considered it as an
alternative. We are already using it with great success. Although I feel for
the loss of WFA and can sympothise with other people I feel its time for us to
go mainstreem. I haven't had the WFA product but I've had the opportunity to
trial the software. I can understand how much info will be taken away from the
user when the product finally is discontinued and that is where my sympothy
lies as using another product like Ovi Maps will feel like making the best of a
bad job with very little tools. Having said all this it's time to explore the
market and embrace new products and ideas.
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From: Darren Harris
Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 11:37 AM
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full interface description
it's great reading about all of this but is it realistically accessible?
i mean is it something that we can viably consider as an alternative?
-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ibrahim Gucukoglu
Sent: 19 March 2010 20:48
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full interface description
Hi Hussein and Saqib.
Would it be possible to use the talks icon labeller to label these
icons?
All the best, Ibrahim.
----- Original Message -----
From: Hussein Patwa
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 8:26 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full interface description
Hi,
Thank you very much for doing this. This will be of great use to a
lot of people I'm sure. Actually it ties in to an idea I have been sitting on
for some time which I will write you about off list.
Best,
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From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Saqib
Sent: 19 March 2010 17:56
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full interface description
Nokia Ovi Maps 3.3 main menu description.
This description is for the new Nokia Maps 3.3 main menu interface.
Usually when you open the application you are greted with the main
menu which consists of 10 icons. There are two rows of 4 icons which are
displayed on the screen and a further 2 which can be seen at the bottom left of
the screen. The display almost looks like a 4-4-2 formation. For those who
follow football will know what I'm relating to.
When you first open the Ovi Maps 3.3 app the drive icon is
highlighted. The drive icon is located on the left of the screen, second one
down from the top left icon. If you select this drive icon you will be
presented with a further 3 icons. The highlighter will be on the first of the 3
icons presented which is on the left of the other two icons. The first icon is
called drive home in this submenu. Selecting this will prompt the app to start
navigation to your home location.
The second icon in this sub menu is called Set Destination. Pressing
select on this will bring up a accessible menu where you can select an option
of your choice. These choices consist of History, Favourites, Search and
finally From Map. The From Map is the 4th option.
The third and final icon from this Drive submenu is called Map. If
you select this you will be shown a Map view of your current location. From
this Map you can press select and you will then be presented with a accessible
menu. The first of these options is Show Details.This will give you further
information in text so You will know exactly where you are currently standing.
For example a name of the road and the number of the property in which you may
be standing by. Second option is Share location. Third option is Save Place.
4th option is Send. I have now covered the drive section of Ovi Maps 3.3.
My Position Icon
From the main icon screen remember when I pointed out that the
highlighter is stationed on the Drive icon in which I have described in detail
above. Above this icon is the My position icon which is situated on the top
left of the screen. It's the first icon in the first row of icons. To get to
this you just arrow up once from the Drive icon. With in this map view you can
hit select to bring up an accessible menu. These consist of Show Details,Share
Location, Save Place and the final option in the list is Send.
Find Places
The Find Places icon is the second icon in from the top left next to
the My Position Icon. Pressing select on this will bring up a search box. Once
you type in your search you should be presented with a result of your search.
Share Location
The Share Location Icon is the third icon in the top ro after the
Find Places icon. You will have to create a Nokia account to take advantage of
this feature.
Favourites
The Favourites Icon is the 4th and last icon in the top row. This is
on the right of the Share Location icon. Pressing select on this will bring up
the Favourites menu. The options here are Sincronise with Ovi, Places, Routs
and Create New Collection.
Second row of 4 icons description
The First option in this row of icons is the Drive option. I have
covered this earlier on in this document.
Walk
The Walk option resides next door to the Drive icon. Selecting this
option will bring up a submenu of three icons. The first icon is Walk Home.
This will trigger the navigation mode and you will be ready to outtake your
journey on foot. Icon 2 is the Set Destination option. From heare you can
select an address from a previous history or favourites. There are also options
to search or select from map. As the map it self is inaccessible I think this
option is not applicable for the VI user. The final option in the Walk submenu
is help. Sadly this is also inaccessible.
Weather
The Weather icon is the third icon in the second row and this is
inaccessible.
Events
The Events Icon is the final icon in the second row of four. This
feature is also inacfcessible.
Third row of 2 icons
The third row which is the bottom row has two icons. Both are
inaccessible. The first is called Loanly Plannet and the neighbouring icon is
called Michelin.
I hope this description is a help to those who are using the
application.
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