[talks-uk] Re: Changed subject line/iPhone
- From: "Hussein Patwa" <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 22:48:20 +0100
Very well said Steve, and that?s before we get onto the software, which is
more my interest.
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From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: 18 May 2010 20:30
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Changed subject line/iPhone
Hi Steve,
Restrictions. Let?s see.
The camera is utter crap, so no OCR in poor light. Doesn?t even have flash.
No way to connect external GPS receiver, and the GPS receiver inbuilt is
poor too.
No way to connect a Bluetooth keyboard, until OS 4.
No way to delete music from the phone, until you get to a PC. You can
delete apps, but not music or pictures. How odd.
No way to put music on the phone via Bluetooth or any other way, other than
iTunes.
No way to swap ringtones via Bluetooth.
Actually, it is not a smart phone at all, it is a PC accessory.
My N86 can do all of the above easily.
Having said all that, I love some of the iPhone apps that are simply not
available for Symbian, or if they are, they are not accessible, and I do
have an iPhone. But it is not geek friendly.
All the best
Steve
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Steve S
Sent: Tuesday 18 May 2010 11:58
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Changed subject line/iPhone
Hi Hussain, well fair enough, guess there's always a way around things.
Yes I am very happy with the phone, regardless of the few restrictions as
you call them. I'm not exactly sure what it is someone would want to do
that the phone restricts them so much, but all I can say is that this phone
offers a barrel load of affordable options to a VIP user that the Nokia
phones I've had don't...and I'm using it so much more than I ever did my
N85. Cheers Steve.
----- Original Message -----
From: Hussein Patwa <mailto:talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 11:30 AM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Off topic
Hi Steve,
Interesting that. And interesting that you went to all the operators on the
high street. I usually do all my negotiating over the phone as it is far
easier to get a deal pushed through without people waiting in the queue as
is the case in a shop.
I did send the iPhone back, but I did also make enquiries into tariffs at
the time, and with O2 recently for a friend who does have the iPhone. For
the latter, I was the silent party on the conference call that helped
negotiate the deal.
Looks like you?re happy with what you got though, and if you can live with
all the iPhone?s restrictions, then yes it is overall a good piece of kit
for what it has.
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From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Steve S
Sent: 18 May 2010 11:01
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Off topic
Hi Hussain, well I talked to all the companies who do the iPhone and have
shops in my city...02, Vodafone, Orange, T Mobile, 3, Tesco and Virgin. T
Mobile and Virgin said they don't do the iPhone and the others had exactly
the same tarrif, apart from Tesco who had a 12 month contract at £20 per
month, but £340 for the handset. When I say exactly, I mean exactly and I
did try to bargain, but were told by all of them Apple set their own
tarrifs. This maybe a tactic on their part, but I had absolutely no
bargaining power, as I couldn't say I could get a better deal elsewhere,
because I couldn't. Paying £340 at Tesco wasn't an option and paying £40+
wasn't either, so I went for a £35/24 month contract, which I'm very happy
with, as the iPhone is an amazing piece of equipment and I wouldn't be able
to get 1 otherwise...I just carried on paying the same as I did for my N85.
BTW, didn't you say a few weeks ago Hussain that you sent your iPhone back
as you didn't like the way it's locked down? Sorry if this wasn't you, but
it's just ringing a bell, cheers Steve.
----- Original Message -----
From: Hussein Patwa <mailto:talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 10:01 AM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Off topic
Hi Steve,
Where did you hear that Apple set the tariffs? Sorry, but this just isn?t
true when you start talking to the networks, at least with T-Mobile and O2,
the first I know from personal experience and the latter from being a silent
party to a conference call when the deal was set up.
Apple may set tariffs, but that does not mean that networks stick by them.
So, my advice is to negotiate with the network, especially if you have a
competitive offer or are doing a contract renewal.
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From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Steve S
Sent: 17 May 2010 22:13
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Off topic
Hi Jim. Apple set their own tarrifs, so it doesn't matter where you go, all
the deals are the same. I've had my iPhone for a few weeks now and as far
as I can remember (don't quote me), you're looking at around £30 per
month=300 minutes/300texts/1gig of data transfer and you'll have to pay
approx £129 for the handset on 18 month contract. £35=600 minutes/unlimited
texts/1gig of data transfer and you'll pay approx £87 for the handset on 24
month contract. Best thing to do is have a look on the web and you'll get
the full picture, cheers Steve.
----- Original Message -----
From: jim <mailto:j_doherty2@xxxxxxx>
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 7:42 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] Off topic
Hi,
Apologies for the off topic message, but not sure where else I could ask
this question.
I'm thinking of getting an Iphone and I'm wondering what the best cim is out
there, with free calls over all networks, text messages and unlimited
broadband connection. Would I have to go contract with a cim only card that
would achieve the above or could I go pay as you go? If i have to go
contract, who is giving the best deals.
If you feel this is off topic, maybe you could answer the questions off list
at:
j_doherty2@xxxxxxx
Thanks in advance for any assistance.
Jim
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