[sparkscoffee] Re: By request
- From: Sblumen123@xxxxxxx
- To: sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 15:43:27 -0500 (EST)
RR & JS
You two guys think you are know it all. Where are they getting
all that money to loan us $1.2 trillion, buy AMC movie chain, oil,
mines, raw material for their manufacturing, etc, etc world wide?
Also the many auto manufacturers joint venturing their plants
there to supply the hotest auto buying public in the world?
Comrade B
In a message dated 3/3/2013 11:00:40 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:
JS,
China was very poor before they switched to capitalism. Capitalism created
the economic boom. Now China is slowly being taken over by communism again
which is unsustainable. The 50% of the Chinese economy that is still
privately owned is paying 100% of the taxes. Because the SOE's pay no taxes
they
have an unfair advantage over private enterprise and will eventually crowd
them out. The less private enterprise remains, the more the government
must tax in order to keep running, which will further drive out private
enterprise. Who will the government get money from then?
The problem with socialism in China is that the SOE's (state owned
enterprises) are all run by a handful of politically connected people. It's a
"worker's paradise" for the elite who are connected to the government. They
make fabulous amounts of money and take no risk. If they lose money the
government bails them out. The problem is that it all hinges on robbing other
people. People with new ideas such as hippie Steve Jobs have no chance to ever
get started because they are not politically connected. China must rob
intellectual property and ideas from other countries. They must rob private
enterprises in their own country in the form of taxes to pay for their SOE's.
Yes in some respects Stan is correct that the Capitalists will sell the
communists the rope with which they will hang them, but what he fails to
mention is that they also hang themselves. The worker's paradise does provide
jobs for a short time, during which the political elite become fabulously
wealthy without having to take any risk but when the scheme inevitably fails
the workers end up with nothing while the political elite end up owning
everything. This is what has happened in every country that has ever tried the
socialist experiment.
-RR
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>Sent: Mar 3, 2013 9:14 AM
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>RR
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>You hit the nail on the head when you said that "the reason why they are
"successful" is because they pay no taxes." China is owned by a communist
oligarchy. A point Stan seems to ignore.
>
>JS
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