[sib-access] Re: Sibelius 7.1
- From: "Claudio Sacco" <cl.sacco@xxxxxxxx>
- To: <sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 17:49:03 +0100
Dear Dan
Thanks for joining in. Tab Shift Tab doesn't really work here. In the upper
ribbon I get oriented myself by pressing the Alt key. I press the arrow key
to move in the upper ribbon. Then Escape and Alt again and Jaws tells me
where I am. In the Backstage it's better to memorize the most important
keys, because otherwise you get stick somewhere and nothing seems to happen
anymore. I hope really, that they can fix things. Sibelius 7 by far doesn't
reach the excellent state of Sibelius 5.25. But I'm always curious and I
think, developers, who take their time making things accessible must
absolutely be supported.
With kind regards and hoping to hear from you soon.
I wish you and all a merry Chrismass.
Claudio
-----Original Message-----
From: sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dan Rugman
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2011 3:31 PM
To: sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [sib-access] Re: Sibelius 7.1
Claudio,
The problem is that the MSAA object is not refreshing properly when moving
between controls. This affects the upper ribbon and the primary controls in
the backstage area. If you press tab and then shift tab the focus change
will force the object to refresh and you'll be able to here where you are.
There are some other tidbits that will help you.
Pressing alt takes you to one of the tabs in the upper ribbon.
Left and right arrow move between each tab but no announcements will be
made.
To check which tab you just moved to, press tab and then shift tab.
You can open the backstage by pressing alt and then F but you must press
each key separately and not as a "chord". JAWS might only say "zero" after
this but you can press tab followed by shift tab to force the proper
announcement, which should be "backstage info".
You move between each primary control in the backstage with up and down
arrows. Again there will be no announcements but you can get one by pressing
tab followed by shift tab. So, to trawl through each primary control you
would have to press down arrow followed by tab followed by shift tab
repeatedly.
Some of the primary controls are like tabs, so you can press tab or shift
tab to move around inside them. Others are just a single control. If you
land on a single control, pressing tab or shift tab will move you around
which ever tab was last opened. EG: when you first open the backstage the
info tab is opened, this is like the old score info in Sib 5/6. If you then
down arrow to the save as button and press tab, you'll land on the first
control in the info tab, which is still open. Pressing shift tab takes you
back to the save as button. It's a little confusing, but if you play around
a little you'll get used to it.
One other point, the JAWS virtual ribbon will have no affect in Sibelius 7.
This feature is designed to work only with the ribbon menus made by
Microsoft and the Sibelius ribbon is not compatible.
Hope this helps,
Dan
-----Original Message-----
From: sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Claudio Sacco
Sent: 22 December 2011 16:47
To: sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [sib-access] Sibelius 7.1
Hi Sibelius 7 users
Now my Sibelius 7.1 is activated. I could do it only with sighted help.
Sibelius 7 is driving in a bad direction; this is true for Jaws and NVDA:
In the BackStage you don't get speech response anymore. And the ribbon main
row doesn't speak eiter, when pressing the arrow keys. Pressing the arrow
keys advances to the next point, but if you want to know, where you are, you
must leave the ribbon with the escape key and repress the Alt key. Very,
very bad news.
Regards
Claudio
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