IV curves of output transistors. Slope of the curves represent output impedance. Over the linear portion, the output behaves like a resistor. Here is a good presentation from Todd Westerhoff: http://www.eda.org/ibis/summits/jun05/westerhoff.pdf -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tesla Sent: December-23-12 8:16 PM To: bertsimonovich@xxxxxxxxxx Cc: tanxiaoliang1987@xxxxxxxxx; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: termination resistor Hi, How could it be that--Driver impedance varies somewhat with load? it should be a contant value if the circuit is decided. Thanks. Tesla At 2012-12-24 08:06:53,"Lambert Simonovich" <bertsimonovich@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >Because the driver is a semi-conductor, it's output impedance could >vary based on rising/falling edge transitions, manufacturing process >(slow, typical, fast), and the load it is driving. One way to estimate >the driver's impedance is by using an IBIS model of the device. Since >IBIS models are ASCII based, you can simply use your favourite text >editor to view and quickly estimate the output impedance when driving >50 Ohms by using two of the four V-T waveform tables. > >Here is the link to one of my blog postings, I did a while back titled, >"Determining Output Impedance from IBIS". > >http://blog.lamsimenterprises.com/2010/12/22/drivers-output-impedance-f >rom-i >bis/ > >Bert Simonovich >LAMSIM Enterprises Inc. >Web Site: http://lamsimenterprises.com >Blog: http://blog.lamsimenterprises.com/ > >-----Original Message----- >From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >[mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of XiaoLiang Tan >Sent: December-22-12 10:02 PM >To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: [SI-LIST] termination resistor > >Dear Expert, > Hello, I am designing a high speed system.Since I don't know >my driver's output resistance, thus the termination resistor value is >not known. Thus may I use the variable resistor? If I use the variable >resistor, the size is big thus I am unable to put all the resistor near >the driver.( I have more than 10 outputs needs to be terminated). Which >means the termination resistor could not be put close to the drivers. > However, if I use a fixed and small size resistor, I need to >trim the resistor manually when I doing the testing. > So may I know that which one is more suitable? 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