Hi: I think there is no strong constraints for source synchronous architecture. Because the key point is in timing skew between data and reference clock/strobe signals. So if the skew between them meet the spec requirement, I think the bus will operate normally. But you can set noise margin as your constraint. I mean for some SI concern, longer trace length will cause worse SI. From your experience, you can put said 300mV as your noise margin, and run sweep analysis for trace length variation. You can find out the upper bound of data or reference clock/strobe's length. I hope it is useful! Jack W.C. Lin -----Original Message----- From: zanglinyuan [mailto:zanglinyuan@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 10:19 AM To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] source synchronous constraint Hi: I am designing some source synchronous system,and need to make PCB routing constraint. However,the timing parameter for tranceiver and reciever does not match each other, for example : TX:setuptime=1ns,holdtime=1ns RX:setuptime=2.5ns,holdtime=0.5ns even so,I don't think the system won't work if we just route the clk/data's PCB length within some tolerance,because the datasheet does't give the valid data time which is very important for the PCB constraint to be made. what's the right way to deal with such case? that's how to make the PCB routing constraint for this case? Thanks a lot in advance. ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu