[SI-LIST] Re: Re: What can we get from solid ground plane?

  • From: Bi Han <mike_bihan@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: Charles.Grasso@xxxxxxxxxxxx, List` Si <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 06:27:09 -0700 (PDT)

Charles:
 
Thanks for head up. It did take me quite a few days to understand this after 
doing a lot of experiments.
 
thanks,
Han
"Grasso, Charles" <Charles.Grasso@xxxxxxxxxxxx> £º
Bi Han - Can it be that you are using a well known 2D modeling tool?
If so then be careful with how you interpret the term "Ideal Ground".
For the 2D modeling tool this means "Return Path".=20

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Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 12:19 AM
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Subject: [SI-LIST] What can we get from solid ground plane?

In papers, I often read "solid ground plane" concept. Some papers will =
treat it as reference node.=20
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As I know, ground plane could not be treated as "ideal ground" no matter =
how good/wide/thick it is. The assumption behind it could be different =
as I will present my understanding below.
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From the view of EM modeling, this solid ground plane make "ground =
reduction method" effictive and accurate. "ground reduction" means fold =
ground plane RLCG into signal trace, thus ground plane could be treated =
as ideal ground.=20
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From design view, the benefit I could see for now, is that solid ground =
plane make each loop's mutual inductance minimal, thus minimize cross =
talk.
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Any different ideas?
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thanks,
Han
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