Pugal, If the package pin length is much shorter than the signal rise/fall time then a lumped RLC model is adequate to model the effect that the package has on the signal. Also, the lumped L and C values can be used to calculate the effective impedance (sqrt(L/C)) and delay (sqrt(LC)) of the pin. This assumption is good as long as the delay is much shorter than the signal rise/fall time. As the rise/fall time approaches the delay calculated from the lumped pin model, the model becomes gradually less accurate. Depending on your accuracy needs, you need to use a correct distributed package model when the delay through the package is 1/10 to 1/6 the rise/fall time. Regards, Weston -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Newbie Pugal Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 7:38 AM To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Package Model in IBIS Hi All, I'm Little confused with the package model definition in IBIS. As far as I understand we can add Package model command and provide the package model details like RLC and length details. My doubt is if we do not have the package Model definition in the IBIS file will the RLC values given for each pin consider as a package model? If so the Length details are ignored? What is the use of the lumped RLC values provided in the IBIS file? Since I'm new to SI Please provide some basic information about Package Model in IBIS. Thanks Pugal ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu