Scott, If you are looking for a broadband match, you have to keep in mind the = lower end of the spectrum of the signal. The length of the taper is = proportional to the wavelength of this frequency. An example would be = an 8B-10B data stream, the lower end would be a series of nulls while = the upper end would be alternating data. I seem to recollect looking at = this technique for matching Fibre Channel signals and came up with a = taper that needed to be on the order of 18 inches. Larry =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Lawrence C. Barnes QLogic Corporation 2660 Laguna Hills Drive Aliso Viejo, CA 92656 -----Original Message----- From: Scott McMorrow [mailto:scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 2:24 PM To: whizplayer@xxxxxxxxx Cc: silist Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Matching impedance Bob, Chapter 5 of Pozar's Microwave Engineering discusses all of the=20 different methods for impedance matching and the limits of each. If you=20 have control over the package of the device, or if the package of the=20 driver is a 75 ohm impedance, then you could use a tapered transmission=20 line to provide a match out to the 50 ohm system impedance. =20 regards, scott --=20 Scott McMorrow Teraspeed Consulting Group LLC 2926 SE Yamhill St. Portland, OR 97214 (503) 239-5536 http://www.teraspeed.com Bob Patel wrote: >Hi! For most applications the impedance requirement is >say 50ohm single ended or 100ohm differential and so >on a PCB the traces are etched to meet this impedance. >Now, for some signals it is not critical to maintain >absolute 50/100 and for higher speed devices, chips >have equalisation circuitry that takes care of some >amount of noise to a certain degree. But the problem >comes for chips that don't have equalisation. >I have an interconnect that has 75ohm output impedance >driver & 50 ohm input receiver. Hence I need to put >matching network. So, the design of the interconnect >is Driver-->75ohm trace-->matching network-->50ohm >trace-->receiver. Now, I keep the 75ohm trace as short >as possible. But the problem I have is that if I look >at the impedance from the driver upto the matching >network it will not be 75ohm but lower because of >added parasitic capacitance of pin, via, pad of >matching network. Hence, I was thinking of removing >the non-functional pads on the driver pin(thru-hole), >keep the trace impedance slightly above 75ohm say >80ohm, that way the effective impedance seen by the >driver is around 75ohm and then I can plug in the >values of resistors to give 75ohm termination at that >point.On the other side since the trace is 50 ohm it >will terminate into the 50ohm termiantion at the >receiver. >Any thoughts or am I on the wrong track? >Also, what is the best way to measure impedance of >assembled board. I solder an SMA cable to the pin(pt. >of interest) and look at the impedance. >Thanks in advance >Bob > >__________________________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. >http://mailplus.yahoo.com >------------------------------------------------------------------ >To unsubscribe from si-list: >si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > >or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: >//www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > >For help: >si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > >List archives are viewable at: =20 > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list >or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages=20 >Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > =20 > > =20 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: =20 //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages=20 Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu