John in capping the tracks go on layer 2. ( At least that is the way that I understand it. ) The microstrip plate up, and SM problems are simply avoided. Steve. At 12:39 PM 6/1/2005 +1000, Jon Keeble wrote: >I'm still struggling to understand exactly what is "capping", and how it >differs from simply being another layer, despite Steve's kind attempts to >explain it. > >.. do the tracks remain on the outer layer ie do not require vias? > >The particular case that interests me is the multiGbit connections between >Virtex4 MGT IO and SFP connectors. >Xilinx have arranged for this to happen on the outer layer, i.e. no vias. >Is "capping" going to help? i.e. mitigate the uncertainties of outlayer >plating and soldermask on Zo? > >Regards > >Jon > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Istvan Novak" <istvan.novak@xxxxxxx> >To: <weirsi@xxxxxxxxxx> >Cc: <jkeeble@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 11:23 AM >Subject: Re: [SI-LIST] Re: High speed signal on top layer > > > > > > Steve, John, > > > > Tradeoff with capping is it also means an extra layer (and for symmetry > > reasons, > > probably two layers) in the PCB . > > > > Regards, > > Istvan > > > > > > steve weir wrote: > > > > >John, that is where dielectric caps the uppermost signal etch. This > > >controls the copper dimensions, affording much better impedance control. > > > > > >Regards, > > > > > >Steve. > > >At 07:41 AM 5/31/2005 +1000, Jon Keeble wrote: > > > > > > > > >>Hi Steve .. > > >> > > >>What is 'capping'? > > >> > > >>Regards > > >> > > >>Jon Keeble > > >> > > >>----- Original Message ----- > > >>From: "steve weir" <weirsi@xxxxxxxxxx> > > >>To: <george_dai@xxxxxxx>; <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > >>Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 6:49 AM > > >>Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: High speed signal on top layer > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>>George, > > >>> > > >>>1. Possible, but there are several pitfalls, including control over > > >>>plate-up and solder mask. 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