[SI-LIST] Re: High speed signal on top layer
- From: Mike Brown <bmgman@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: weirsi@xxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 22:02:56 -0500
I imagine that you'd need to get to/from the L2 high speed pairs with
blind vias in order to avoid via stubbing problems.
Mike
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steve weir wrote:
>John in capping the tracks go on layer 2. ( At least that is the way that
>I understand it. ) The microstrip plate up, and SM problems are simply
>avoided.
>
>Steve.
>At 12:39 PM 6/1/2005 +1000, Jon Keeble wrote:
>
>
>>I'm still struggling to understand exactly what is "capping", and how it
>>differs from simply being another layer, despite Steve's kind attempts to
>>explain it.
>>
>>.. do the tracks remain on the outer layer ie do not require vias?
>>
>>The particular case that interests me is the multiGbit connections between
>>Virtex4 MGT IO and SFP connectors.
>>Xilinx have arranged for this to happen on the outer layer, i.e. no vias.
>>Is "capping" going to help? i.e. mitigate the uncertainties of outlayer
>>plating and soldermask on Zo?
>>
>>Regards
>>
>>Jon
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Istvan Novak" <istvan.novak@xxxxxxx>
>>To: <weirsi@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>Cc: <jkeeble@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 11:23 AM
>>Subject: Re: [SI-LIST] Re: High speed signal on top layer
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>Steve, John,
>>>
>>>Tradeoff with capping is it also means an extra layer (and for symmetry
>>>reasons,
>>>probably two layers) in the PCB .
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Istvan
>>>
>>>
>>>steve weir wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>John, that is where dielectric caps the uppermost signal etch. This
>>>>controls the copper dimensions, affording much better impedance control.
>>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>
>>>>Steve.
>>>>At 07:41 AM 5/31/2005 +1000, Jon Keeble wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hi Steve ..
>>>>>
>>>>>What is 'capping'?
>>>>>
>>>>>Regards
>>>>>
>>>>>Jon Keeble
>>>>>
>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "steve weir" <weirsi@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>To: <george_dai@xxxxxxx>; <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 6:49 AM
>>>>>Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: High speed signal on top layer
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>George,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>1. Possible, but there are several pitfalls, including control over
>>>>>>plate-up and solder mask. Capping could help with those.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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